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- #21
- Posted: 04/04/2018 21:11
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| YoungPunk wrote: |
Anyways a famous musician saying it completely validates this point. |
Well, I think it gives it a bit more validation but doesn't by virtue make it true.
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- #22
- Posted: 04/04/2018 21:24
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@Luigi
Well, my understanding (from youtube) is that the DJ plays a song like "Dancing Queen", then there is a cool interlude, then he plays something like "More, More, More", I think... And they do that for the whole party, I'll have to ask my Dad...
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- #23
- Posted: 04/04/2018 21:52
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| YoungPunk wrote: | @Luigi
Well, my understanding (from youtube) is that the DJ plays a song like "Dancing Queen", then there is a cool interlude, then he plays something like "More, More, More", I think... And they do that for the whole party, I'll have to ask my Dad... |
I could see that. Then again I do remember on Janelle Monae's Electric Lady had stuff like that.
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- #24
- Posted: 04/05/2018 01:19
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I have a friend who calls movies documentaries and documentaries movies.
I like Ken Burns, but there are limitations and oversimplifications in documentaries.
The context was an interview and literally the clip (now paraphrasing because I watched it last night) was an interview of Armstrong saying:
Well, there's good music and there's bad music. Anything you can tap your foot to, is good music.
It was amongst a time in the doc when it was talking about his influence from Joe King Oliver... so not really a great context. Maybe a bit about how they mixed jazz with ragtime...
So right... the bit wasn't really Armstrong giving his dissertation on how to review music from beginning to end. Just thought you guys might like that single attribute he highlighted/wanted to discuss it.
I will say this, I tap my foot (although lightly) at classical concerts, to rock concerts, to jazz concerts... sometimes it's harder or neigh impossible to tap your foot to more experimental music...
And I'd have to say out of all the music I love, I can indeed tap my foot to it.
But I also don't think he was saying that is the only qualifier as many of you have pointed out... there's plenty of shit music you technically can tap your foot to it... perhaps the key is... do you want to tap your foot to it?
Also - I think what he meant by tapping your foot, is it gets your mojo workin' - it moves from your brain to your soul and that indeed is a fantastic definition of good music.
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- #25
- Posted: 04/05/2018 04:03
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Cerebral music (like prog)
Emotional music (well, there’s lots)
Physical music (like funk, or things that make you tap your foot)
Music appeals on these levels, to varying degrees...
I probably dislike any music that is purely one of those things...
The best music has all three, just like a well-integrated human being.
Afterthought:
Some humans distrust one of these. As if the cerebral were the enemy of the spiritual, the emotional were the enemy of the intellectual, and the physical the realm of base desires. Perhaps this explains music taste: that we dislike music that emphasises the thing in ourselves that we trust the least.
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- #26
- Posted: 04/05/2018 04:12
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Cool doco, btw.
Lots of other cool quotes to come. There’s one where Gerard Early (I think that was his name) is talking about Billie Holiday or Miles Davis, and says something about how all the best jazz has a feeling of loneliness about it.
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- #27
- Posted: 04/05/2018 09:40
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| Tha1ChiefRocka wrote: | | Well, we should probably take that quote within the context of when it was said. I know that Louis only lived until 1971, so even if he said it then, I'd probably have to agree. |
This is the key point. Even if the quote was from an interview in the TV age, we can assume Louie favored swing, New Orleans jazz and city blues; he famously didn't like be-bop.
The disco era was when some dance music gave up trying to be good all-around music. Though there's quite a bit of good disco, the beat itself was less interesting than funk's (supposedly easier for white people to dance to) and you had disco like Silver Convention that wasn't trying to be anything much more than a danceable beat. In the 80s and beyond, when drum machines and synthesizers became prevalent, the divide between utilitarian dance music and music that made an effort to be good only increased.
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- #28
- Posted: 04/05/2018 14:08
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Funny enough I sometimes experience the complete opposite: when I hear music I don’t like, I try to amend it by tapping and stuff. But Armstrong probably didn’t mean it literally. With that in mind I totally agree: the least requirement for music is rhythm. I would add the total amount of movement is an indication of how much you enjoy the music... but that doesn’t really sound like a good quote.
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