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Luigii wrote:
So hopefully to Pash

If not for Pash, this is still my pick.


This will be for glynspsa
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Dreamer by Bobby Bland

I like Bobby Bland, this is a great album, and the leadoff track is one of my favorite songs ever, so I was happy to listen to Dreamer again. My opinion didn't change one way or the other after revisiting. Powerful soul vocals and a good mix of songs. 4/5.

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The Smile Sessions by The Beach Boys

Give this a whirl, and stop after Good Vibrations, because the rest is just outtakes and not the album itself.
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Observator by The Raveonettes

Not bad...I enjoyed it...but nothing extra special. The album lacks a really great track. Good enough to just make my yearly chart for that year.

For Baystate: I find you one of the hardest to recommend for, but I'll keep trying to find a common ground that you haven't already heard 😁


Do Hollywood by The Lemon Twigs
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Do Hollywood by The Lemon Twigs

I really liked this. Solid compositionally and full of intriguing stylistic detours. They know how to write a pop tune. I could see it becoming a great album for me with re-listens, but for now it starts at a high 3.5/5.

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I Can Hear The Heart Beating As One by Yo La Tengo
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Flood Network by Katie Dey

Well, this is a fun little album, isn't it? I didn't know what to expect, but I am pleasantly surprised. Is this allowed to be called "bedroom pop" or would that be wrong?


Here Baystate, listen to this comp.


Nightlands by Various Artists

Edit: Forgot to mention that the version on youtube has a weird 2 minutes or so of silence around the 19 to 20 minute mark.
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Life by Knower

held my interest which is rare for a dance record but i will probably never listen to again intentionally anyways, though i dint hate it would rate a 6/6.5 to of 10. If vocals weren't so damn annoying i d rate higher but has a very West hollywood feel with i like.

My recommendation will be:
Sco-Mule by Gov't Mule
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Glad you though it was decent Glynspsa. Though I do get about the vocals being annoying. Love the first actual song, but the vocals are ehhhh. Still need to finish that album

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I still need to get into the rest of the Beach Boys work, but as my first rodeo this is good. Just good. Rating wise it is a 70 to 75. And there are two reasons why. One, the dynamics aren't there. Unlike albums that I love like TPAB, Geogaddi, Campfire Headphase and others, this album feels somewhat passe. Sure it was the 60's but when albums like Karma feel full in design, it somewhat kills my enjoyment. But it also comes down that certain tracks are a lot shorter. They feel unfinished. And sure that could be the point, however artists need to do more.

My pick:


Need to get another session under my belt. But as of now, my favorite Kate Bush album.
50 Words for Snow from 2011.
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Luigii wrote:
I still need to get into the rest of the Beach Boys work, but as my first rodeo this is good. Just good. Rating wise it is a 70 to 75. And there are two reasons why. One, the dynamics aren't there. Unlike albums that I love like TPAB, Geogaddi, Campfire Headphase and others, this album feels somewhat passe. Sure it was the 60's but when albums like Karma feel full in design, it somewhat kills my enjoyment. But it also comes down that certain tracks are a lot shorter. They feel unfinished. And sure that could be the point, however artists need to do more


But Luigii, that's literally what this album is. It's perhaps the most notoriously unfinished and unreleased album of all time! Mostly recorded in 1966-67, it was shelved and finally got an official release in 2011. Judge it all you want on how great or not the music sounds, but it seems highly unfair to judge it for having an unfinished quality - no one made any pretensions that this was a completed work.

And how is it passé? Your point of comparison for this statement, Karma, is an album recorded two years later in a genre that could scarcely be more different. And while Pharaoh Sanders was virtually unknown among the general public when he recorded Karma, the Beach Boys were one of the biggest bands in the world and signed to a commercially-oriented label when they recorded Smile. There is arguably no more experimental and progressive recording from 1967 within the realm of popular music with commercial expectations. I would argue that The Smile Sessions are much closer to cutting-edge than they are to passé.

Anyway, I'm glad you liked it at least somewhat, and maybe it will grow on you in the future.
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But Luigii, that's literally what this album is. It's perhaps the most notoriously unfinished and unreleased album of all time! Mostly recorded in 1966-67, it was shelved and finally got an official release in 2011. Judge it all you want on how great or not the music sounds, but it seems highly unfair to judge it for having an unfinished quality - no one made any pretensions that this was a completed work.

And how is it passé? Your point of comparison for this statement, Karma, is an album recorded two years later in a genre that could scarcely be more different. And while Pharaoh Sanders was virtually unknown among the general public when he recorded Karma, the Beach Boys were one of the biggest bands in the world and signed to a commercially-oriented label when they recorded Smile. There is arguably no more experimental and progressive recording from 1967 within the realm of popular music with commercial expectations. I would argue that The Smile Sessions are much closer to cutting-edge than they are to passé.

Anyway, I'm glad you liked it at least somewhat, and maybe it will grow on you in the future.


Yeah I did enjoy it and some songs where given a second chance with headphones. Because before I finished it, I was thinking to myself that though good was just lacking. And you definitely do point it out in the first paragraph. But when you get in the Top 20 of any year especially this decade, you do have to prove your work. Who knows maybe if it was in the Top 50, I'd would be on the same side. And though I do agree, when your number 3 of 2011, I would feel a bit disappointed.

Now why did I call it a bit passe? Well it is more comes to the construction of the songs as well as nowadays more albums nowadays are dense, detailed, packed with emotion. And while I do believe Beach Boys could hit those qualities and probably did during there time, other genres that didn't exist in the 60's just do so much more for me. Stuff like Dream Pop, Shoegaze, Ambient, IDM and countless others hit me way more on a personal level.
But, when I continue through the 60's I do try to be level headed. Also for Sanders, I use him to how his spiritual jazz is another subgenre that speaks more volumes to me but also as a example of an album that is almost 50 years old and speaks to a guy in his 20's.
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baystateoftheart wrote:
But Luigii, that's literally what this album is. It's perhaps the most notoriously unfinished and unreleased album of all time! Mostly recorded in 1966-67, it was shelved and finally got an official release in 2011. Judge it all you want on how great or not the music sounds, but it seems highly unfair to judge it for having an unfinished quality - no one made any pretensions that this was a completed work.

And how is it passé? Your point of comparison for this statement, Karma, is an album recorded two years later in a genre that could scarcely be more different. And while Pharaoh Sanders was virtually unknown among the general public when he recorded Karma, the Beach Boys were one of the biggest bands in the world and signed to a commercially-oriented label when they recorded Smile. There is arguably no more experimental and progressive recording from 1967 within the realm of popular music with commercial expectations. I would argue that The Smile Sessions are much closer to cutting-edge than they are to passé.

Anyway, I'm glad you liked it at least somewhat, and maybe it will grow on you in the future.


Yeah I did enjoy it and some songs where given a second chance with headphones. Because before I finished it, I was thinking to myself that though good was just lacking. And you definitely do point it out in the first paragraph. But when you get in the Top 20 of any year especially this decade, you do have to prove your work. Who knows maybe if it was in the Top 50, I'd would be on the same side. And though I do agree, when your number 3 of 2011, I would feel a bit disappointed.

Now why did I call it a bit passe? Well it is more comes to the construction of the songs as well as nowadays more albums nowadays are dense, detailed, packed with emotion. And while I do believe Beach Boys could hit those qualities and probably did during there time, other genres that didn't exist in the 60's just do so much more for me. Stuff like Dream Pop, Shoegaze, Ambient, IDM and countless others hit me way more on a personal level.
But, when I continue through the 60's I do try to be level headed. Also for Sanders, I use him to how his spiritual jazz is another subgenre that speaks more volumes to me but also as a example of an album that is almost 50 years old and speaks to a guy in his 20's.


Are you saying you judge albums with a higher BEA rank differently? And that this same recording might have gotten a higher rating from you if it weren't as high as it is in the charts? Or am I misunderstanding?

I thought you were saying it was passé when it was recorded. Now I see you mean it feels passé now. I suppose I can understand where you're coming from, even though I disagree. I would argue it is "dense, detailed, packed with emotion" even when evaluated in comparison to today's works. But to each their own.
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