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DommeDamian wrote:
Also, I'm done with my next album very soon. Would it be possible for you to write a bit of artful analysis about it, if not just give it a listen?


🤔 🤔 🤔

I’m always a little hesitant to do this Domme…

I’m pretty strict and have heard a bit (in most cases a lot) of “everything” so it’s very hard to get by that and produce something that will stand out to me above maybe a 5, 5.5, 6.

For the record, I did like various tracks off one that you sent me some years ago even though I’m not sure if I ever got back to you about it. I recall a “Suicide” influenced track that was among the standouts.

But even something like The Killers Hot Fuss which is a very competent if derivative (Strokes, Interpol…) accomplishment, it’s maybe a 5, 5,5, or could be a touch higher, but would be maybe even remarkable for a random artist to turn out. Mainstream as it is, it’s not Justin Bieber and it still had to pass through a sort of quality control process. As much as one might turn their nose at a 5.5 or 6 rating, that still usually required a pretty competent band/artist, usually professionally recorded, professionally played, professional song writing, at least some ingenuity, creativity, passion for the project, emotion, etc.

(Obviously not all of that has to apply; there are great more “independent” releases across my lists)

So I don’t know, you might be able to convince me, but as before I warn you that the chances are higher than not (just odds-wise, I don’t mean your abilities personally) that I’m going to give it a 5 or something. That is true across the boards too, so again, not personal (5 is avg).
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Misc updates…

I revisited Sgt Pepper and revised/updated several of the song ratings, not by a lot, most by a point or few, but upgrades nonetheless (including Day in the Life, Within You Without You…)

Abbey Rd: now all songs rated and added to my songs/tracks list

MMT: all songs rated and added too

White Album: in progress on figuring out the ratings, haven’t been added to my songs list so far but do intend to complete the whole album
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AfterHours wrote:
:-k 🤔 🤔

I’m always a little hesitant to do this Domme…

I’m pretty strict and have heard a bit (in most cases a lot) of “everything” so it’s very hard to get by that and produce something that will stand out to me above maybe a 5, 5.5, 6.

For the record, I did like various tracks off one that you sent me some years ago even though I’m not sure if I ever got back to you about it. I recall a “Suicide” influenced track that was among the standouts.

But even something like The Killers Hot Fuss which is a very competent if derivative (Strokes, Interpol…) accomplishment, it’s maybe a 5, 5,5, or could be a touch higher, but would be maybe even remarkable for a random artist to turn out. Mainstream as it is, it’s not Justin Bieber and it still had to pass through a sort of quality control process. As much as one might turn their nose at a 5.5 or 6 rating, that still usually required a pretty competent band/artist, usually professionally recorded, professionally played, professional song writing, at least some ingenuity, creativity, passion for the project, emotion, etc.

(Obviously not all of that has to apply; there are great more “independent” releases across my lists)

So I don’t know, you might be able to convince me, but as before I warn you that the chances are higher than not (just odds-wise, I don’t mean your abilities personally) that I’m going to give it a 5 or something. That is true across the boards too, so again, not personal (5 is avg).


No worries AH.

I won't take it personally, as people simply giving my music a listen is a much bigger achievement and compliment in my eyes. I even remember one time you wrote a 7-8 sentenced analysis on Oasis' Morning Glory, and it was still pretty damn insightful despite it being negative. I'm mostly fascinated because whether you end up thinking it's NSYNC or Morphine-level, you may say something I won't hear elsewhere and viciously could drive me towards making more astounding work in the future. For my new record, although personally I find it to be more conceptually and atmospherically revealing than my previous, I do not expect anything higher than, say, a 6.

Oh and the Suicide track you're referring to is Circlegate, track 10 from my Healium record.
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Hey how is "Hello Goodbye" more highly rated than "I Am The Walrus"?
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DommeDamian wrote:
AfterHours wrote:
:-k 🤔 🤔

I’m always a little hesitant to do this Domme…

I’m pretty strict and have heard a bit (in most cases a lot) of “everything” so it’s very hard to get by that and produce something that will stand out to me above maybe a 5, 5.5, 6.

For the record, I did like various tracks off one that you sent me some years ago even though I’m not sure if I ever got back to you about it. I recall a “Suicide” influenced track that was among the standouts.

But even something like The Killers Hot Fuss which is a very competent if derivative (Strokes, Interpol…) accomplishment, it’s maybe a 5, 5,5, or could be a touch higher, but would be maybe even remarkable for a random artist to turn out. Mainstream as it is, it’s not Justin Bieber and it still had to pass through a sort of quality control process. As much as one might turn their nose at a 5.5 or 6 rating, that still usually required a pretty competent band/artist, usually professionally recorded, professionally played, professional song writing, at least some ingenuity, creativity, passion for the project, emotion, etc.

(Obviously not all of that has to apply; there are great more “independent” releases across my lists)

So I don’t know, you might be able to convince me, but as before I warn you that the chances are higher than not (just odds-wise, I don’t mean your abilities personally) that I’m going to give it a 5 or something. That is true across the boards too, so again, not personal (5 is avg).


No worries AH.

I won't take it personally, as people simply giving my music a listen is a much bigger achievement and compliment in my eyes. I even remember one time you wrote a 7-8 sentenced analysis on Oasis' Morning Glory, and it was still pretty damn insightful despite it being negative. I'm mostly fascinated because whether you end up thinking it's NSYNC or Morphine-level, you may say something I won't hear elsewhere and viciously could drive me towards making more astounding work in the future. For my new record, although personally I find it to be more conceptually and atmospherically revealing than my previous, I do not expect anything higher than, say, a 6.

Oh and the Suicide track you're referring to is Circlegate, track 10 from my Healium record.


Ok Domme, I'll consider it. It better be the next Rock Bottom, or else!

🤥 J/K of course

Joking aside, I really would think 5-6 to be an impressive accomplishment and if that's what I rate it (give or take) realize it's coming from that perspective even though the rating may seem numerically low (especially with something you probably have a personal attachment to and put a lot of work in with).
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Hey how is "Hello Goodbye" more highly rated than "I Am The Walrus"?


I Am The Walrus has moved around a lot over the years (anywhere between like 6 and 6.9 or the equivalent in relation to my current ratings). So it might not be, I could have it a couple points too low.

Hello Goodbye is one of the more unusual progressions, he constant satiric-yet emotive-push-pull-pendulum swing of happy/sad, almost "awkwardly" charismatic, charming, grasping at straws (like in a dream where someone is there but you can't seem to reach them). It is among the best showcases of their odd melodic talent that they peaked with in 1967 where the melodies are more surreal with odd and unexpected left turns, off-beat timings, rhythms (for pop) and what-not.
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All of the tracks to the White Album now rated and added to my Songs/Tracks list.

I am very back and forth on my rating for that album. Today it seemed more like 6.5 or so, while yesterday I thought it could be their highest rated album. So 6.8/10 is about in the middle of that, but may not hold. I'm leaning towards a little bit of a downgrade (from 6.8/10) at the moment, but I'm going to listen to it probably 1-3 more times before I hope to settle the rating a bit better. This also means there will likely be more tweaking of the song ratings, so as usual, current ratings are in progress "not final". Particularly with The White Album, there may be a couple "phases" of revisions before I settle in like I now have with, for example, Sgt Pepper, which is far less likely to change much at this point (assuming my scale doesn't go through another "shift" in thinking, like it has with shorter tracks in more recent times).
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Revising Beatles ratings, pre-Sgt Pepper albums

Note: if they are blank or don’t have an equal sign or arrows pointing to upgrade/downgrade, I haven’t revisited them yet (in this most current round of listening), but do still intend to…

A Hard Days Night
1: 5.8 >>> 6.0
2: 4.1 >>> 4.2
3: 3.5 >>> 3.8
4: 2.8 >>> 2.9
5: 4.2 >>> 5.0
6: 4.0 >>> 5.0
7: 4.8 >>> 5.3
8: 4.1 >>> 5.0
9: 3.1 >>> 4.3
10: 3.9 >>> 4.8
11: 4.2 >>> 5.0
12: 3.5 >>> 4.5
13: 3.7 >>> 4.8
Overall Rating: 5.1/10 >>> 5.2/10

Help
(All new except #1)
1: 5.8 >>> 6.0 >>> 6.1
2: 4.0
3: 5.7
4: 3.3
5: 3.1
6: 4.3
7: 5.8
8: 3.6
9: 3.8
10: 3.1
11: 3.4
12: 4.8
13: 6.0
14: 4.3
Overall Rating: 4.1/10 >>> 4.4/10

Rubber Soul
1: 5.2 =
2: 5.4 >>> 5.7
3: 4.9 =
4: 5.5 >>> 5.8
5: 4.5 >>> 4.8
6: 4.3 >>> 4.6
7: 5.5 >>> 5.7
8: 2.8 =
9: 5.4 >>> 5.7
10: 3.8 =
11: 5.2 >>> 5.1
12: 4.3 =
13: 4.7 =
14: 5.2 =

Revolver
1: 5.2 >>> 5.5
2: 5.6 >>> 5.8
3: 5.5 >>> 5.7
4: 5.2 >>> 5.4
5: 3.1 =
6: 5.0 =
7: 5.0 >>> 5.1
8: 3.1 >>> 3.7
9: 5.0 =
10: 4.0 >>> 4.2
11: 3.9 >>> 4.2
12: 3.7 >>> 4.6
13: 3.9 =
14: 6.8 =

ADDITIONAL KEY TRACKS TO REVISIT AND RATE:

Hey Jude
Day Tripper
Rain
We Can Work it Out
Lady Madonna
The Inner Light
It’s All Too Much
What's The New Mary Jane
Carnival of Light (technically incomplete, so should it qualify for rating?)

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Also The Byrds… (albums to be added)

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Also Beach Boys…

Pet Sounds
(All new)
1: 6.3
2: 6.1
3: 5.0
4: 6.3
5: 6.2
6: 5.3
7: 5.5
8: 6.0
9: 6.0
10: 6.0
11: 6.1
12: 5.4
13: 5.6

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Bob Dylan…

Freewheelin Bob Dylan
1: 6.0
2: 6.1
3: 5.8
4: 3.9
5: 3.8
6: 6.1
7: 6.0
8: 4.4
9: 3.0
10: 5.1
11: 3.8
12: 4.0
13: 4.8
Overall Rating: 6.1/10 >>> 5.5/10

Bringing it All Back Home
1: 6.3 = >>> 6.5
2: 6.1 >>> 6.0
3: 5.5 >>> 5.8 >>> 6.0
4: 6.0 =
5: 5.1 = >>> 5.2
6: 4.2 >>> 4.6 >>> 5.0
7: 4.3 >>> 4.8 >>> 5.0
8: 6.8 =
9: 5.8 >>> 6.0
10: 6.4 >>> 6.8 >>> 6.6
11: 6.5 >>> 6.8
Overall Rating: 6.5/10 >>> 7.0/10 >>> 7.4/10

Blood on the Tracks
(All ratings are new)
1: 6.6
2: 6.3
3: 6.3
4: 7.0
5: 4.3
6: 4.1
7: 5.3 (I’m all over the place with this song, sometimes a little lower than this, sometimes a full 1.0 or so higher … so could change)
8: 5.8
9: 6.0
10: 5.1

Desire
1: 6.7
2:
3:
4:
5:
6:
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Hey Jude
Day Tripper
Rain
We Can Work it Out
Lady Madonna
The Inner Light
It’s All Too Much
Carnival of Light (technically incomplete, so should it qualify for rating?)


Carnival of Light hasn't been released... but how about rating "What's The New Mary Jane", Lennon's bonkers Syd Barrettish White Album outtake!

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