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According to Flea anyway. What do you all think?

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Rock music is inherently less interesting at this particular moment in time than most other genres, though that's likely because it was the most dominant genre throughout the latter half on the twentieth century and therefore many have us have become somewhat immune to its charms, possibly through overexposure.
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I guess I can agree with the classic definition/rebellious perspective of rock to be dead. The indie rock image is the dominant one now.
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Anti wrote:
I guess I can agree with the classic definition/rebellious perspective of rock to be dead. The indie rock image is the dominant one now.


Nope.
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Nope.


It may just be the crowd I'm around then. But honestly, I haven't seen a Guns N' Roses or AC/DC sort of band become popular with my generation. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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If you read the article, Flea isn't really saying "rock is dead", and is more critiquing the polish and branding of modern corporate rock bands. So yea, in that case I agree with him. If you're someone like Flea who started playing music in the 80's and 90's, and your only connection with modern rock music is through what is mainstream, than you would probably share a similar view

Using the Billboard rock chart as a measure of what's popular right now in mainstream rock music, you can see what
http://www.billboard.com/charts/rock-albums

Removing the bands long past their prime, and artists like Sturgill Simpson who don't fit there at all, you get Twenty One Pilots, Panic! At The Disco, The Lumineers, shit like that. Are those bands overly polished and marketed? Hell yeah. If I was a major rock bassist who only knows modern rock from what is mainstream, would I share a similar opinion? Hell yeah
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Some member of the mainstream rock music guard of days gone by has been declaring rock to be "dead" just about once a decade. Gene Simmons, Lenny Kravitz, Marilyn Manson, Dee Snider, Todd Rundgren, David Crosby, you name it.

This is his quote:

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I just remember being so excited that we were playing with [Pearl Jam] and with Smashing Pumpkins, because it was just an exciting time for rock music. A lot of times, especially recently, I look at rock music as kind of a dead form in a lot of ways. Nothing to take away from us and [Pearl Jam], because obviously I believe we’re relevant bands that come with a real energy. But if you’re a kid today, and you get in a rock band, it’s like – when we were kids, when I said I want to be in a rock band and that’s what I’m doing for my life, that’s what I was going to do, no question. You’d get: ‘You are a fucking lunatic, you are crazy. You’re never going to get a decent job in your life. What are you doing? You’re ruining your life.’

I was like fuck it, I don’t care, this is what I want to do, this means everything to me, I found a home. I’ve been a weird, neurotic, loner kid all my life, I was always the kid you called fag in high school, punk rock gave me a home. But nowadays, you decide you want to be in a rock band it’s like, ‘Oh great, let’s get you an image consultant, and a lawyer, and a manager, and let’s see what we can do here. It’s a great money making opportunity for you junior.


Flea's an idiot, the whole thing is reductive, and that's giving him credit. You have to be completely out of touch to really think that there aren't any rock bands out there ready to make powerful rock music.

And let's be real here Flea, is the new Chili Peppers album really going to be so revolutionary that you're saving rock music from its bitter death? Please.


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It may just be the crowd I'm around then. But honestly, I haven't seen a Guns N' Roses or AC/DC sort of band become popular with my generation. Correct me if I'm wrong.


I was referring to your assertion that indie rock is dominant. Adele, Taylor Swift, Beyoncé, and Drake - among numerous others - would beg to differ.
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Twenty One Pilots


Ugh, I live in Ohio and they're from Dayton so I see/hear these guys a disgusting amount of the time. I overheard someone at the dining hall once say "TOP is, like, the only band that makes music where they actually care about the message and quality in the music they make."
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I was referring to your assertion that indie rock is dominant. Adele, Taylor Swift, Beyoncé, and Drake - among numerous others - would beg to differ.


Oh yeah, they certainly are. I'm just talking about rock in general, not in comparison to all genres.
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