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NowhereMan
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  • Posted: 10/31/2018 15:49
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All these anniversary editions of albums gets me weak at the knees; when it comes to The Beatles I collect bootleg outtakes and Session demos so I am not as excited about the 50th anniversary of The White Album as others may be.

However, when it comes to 'bonus tracks' on stuff like ELO's 'A New World Record' and 'Balance of Power' - the songs 'Surrender' and 'In For The Kill' respectively simply has me questioning massively why they were not included on the album.

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craola
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  • Posted: 10/31/2018 16:18
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i tend to lean towards the less is more argument, so i don't typically feel that way (the why not this track thing), though on occasion, if a b side is so far superior to one or more a sides, i have heard myself uttering something something about how thom yorke was a moron for choosing bodysnatchers over bangers and mash or up on the ladder.

i got the deluxe edition of fyfe dangerfield's solo album back in the day, and i thought there were three b-sides that should've been a-sides and three vice versa. i've always felt he missed a couple obvious brushstrokes with that release, and the average pitchfork or what have you got more of the canned songs when the second disc had the artsier takes that the publication might've enjoyed some. disserviced himself trying to pick the songs he thought people wanted to hear rather than the ones he loved making, i think. what do i know? but that's me, i guess.

i tend to get a little bit bored once an album overstays its welcome, and it's a fine line, i guess, with different rules for every album, but in general, i appreciate and respect artists for leaving clutter in the gutter, even if i disagree with what ought t've made whichever slice.

spotify has a bad habit of including the excess stuff for releases, which has me scratching my head. until i bought the LP, i thought dexy's too-rye-aye was this monstrously long release with wayyy too many tracks, but then i got the lp, and it's significantly shorter in real life than spotify life. and it's much better shorter. usually, no always, i.m.e., the albums are better as a concise statement. i don't like when the spottrs dribble their fodder into my sink any more than you like me spilling my mayonaise on your ice cream sundae. but i guess that's on me too for not paying better attention.
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  • Posted: 10/31/2018 22:20
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Like many folks, my first impression of this was on b sides that weren't included on the album like Led Zeppelin's Hey Hey, What Can I Do and Fleetwood Mac's gorgeous Silver Spring (originally intended for Rumours).

I always thought it was silly when record labels would add an unreleased track as part of a Greatest Hits collection. That said, I do love Dan Fogelberg's Missing You.

I recently picked up the anniversary addition of the Who's Who's Next. Of course, that was originally intended to be a double, so in scaling back to a single, there was bound to be good material left over and it turns out there was, as the bonus tracks include some excellent material.

On the flipside, everything eventually put on Zep's Coda fully deserved to be left on the cutting room floor.
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  • Posted: 10/31/2018 23:27
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I just wish that the Liberty Records company, now called Capitol Nashville that is, would release what the Oak Ridge Boys did for them in the mid 1990's, at least the songs that my late beautiful precious Steve Sanders did the leading on anyway. "Perfect Love" and "Honey On My Harley" are two songs with him on lead that I believe have been in that camp's possession ever since but never put out there.

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  • Posted: 11/01/2018 03:05
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I'll have to agree with Craoloalalala's (I can't spell) comment about the deluxe versions or whatever on spotify. I'd rather just have the standard album if it's just adding a track or two.

U2's re-releases for their 20th anniversary (or whatever it was) were done right (as well as their best of collections) where they'd do the standard album as one disc and then the unreleased stuff as the second disc. That's a format I really can get behind because you get the meat and if you want potatoes, they are there too.

But as just a song or 5 just added to the original tracklist... typically I find that gross.

Talking about this topic in a different way, U2 and Rick Rubin did an album together right before they started to suck (in my book) and I'd be incredibly interested on what that material would have sounded like had it not been shelved.
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  • Posted: 11/01/2018 03:41
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If "Forget Her" had been included on Grace, it would've made that record even better. Same with "I'm Straight" and some of the other bonus tracks from The Modern Lovers. The first three Costello albums all annoyingly had different singles in the US and UK, meaning that each edition of the album was missing one of its best songs.
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  • Posted: 11/01/2018 04:11
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sethmadsen wrote:
I'll have to agree with Craoloalalala

i'm curious who you're talking about...

Sandinistar wrote:
If "Forget Her" had been included on Grace, it would've made that record even better. Same with "I'm Straight" and some of the other bonus tracks from The Modern Lovers. The first three Costello albums all annoyingly had different singles in the US and UK, meaning that each edition of the album was missing one of its best songs.

i disagree. while i love forget her, i don't think it really fits the rest of that album. it's a much more straightforward song - basically just two chords em-am with a couple fancy chords thrown into the chorus - and i dare say it's not nearly as graceful as the other songs. now, i would've enjoyed What Will You Say on the record cause it's one of jeff's top two/three compositions, but again, it's a bit on the angsty side. all that said, an EP with the aforementioned and All Flowers In Time (feat. Liz Fraser) would've been incredible.
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craola wrote:
i disagree. while i love forget her, i don't think it really fits the rest of that album. it's a much more straightforward song - basically just two chords em-am with a couple fancy chords thrown into the chorus - and i dare say it's not nearly as graceful as the other songs. now, i would've enjoyed What Will You Say on the record cause it's one of jeff's top two/three compositions, but again, it's a bit on the angsty side. all that said, an EP with the aforementioned and All Flowers In Time (feat. Liz Fraser) would've been incredible.


I agree with Sandinistar, here [the quote button does not include the initial quote].
Forget Her is beautiful. I find it superior to So Real, for instance. For me the album would be better with Forget Her in place of So Real.

NB : Forget Her is now included as the last track on some editions
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  • Posted: 11/01/2018 17:08
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Even though it was a B-Side, I think Erotic City would've been a great Side 2 song on Purple Rain

I also think Rebirth of The Flesh should've ended up on Sign O' The Times

as for non-Prince stuff, I think it would've been awesome for Pink Floyd's Household Objects project to have been fully realized. Although if it weren't for it's cancellation we wouldn't have gotten DSotM
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