Alright, ladies and gentlemen, here we are with another one of our movie lists. No need in a big opening; we'll jump to a couple key points and get this show on the road...
The list was compiled from seven lists submitted by BEA users. On those seven lists, a total of 166 unique selections were made.
As usual, teams had to receive at least two votes to be eligible for the list.
Tiebreakers were done by giving the edge to the pair that appeared on more lists. In the cases where they appeared on the same number of lists, the group that got the most points on a single list ranked higher.
50. Steve McQueen & Michael Fassbender
Noteworthy Films: Shame, Hunger, 12 Years a Slave
49. Tim Burton & Johnny Depp
Noteworthy Films: Edward Scissorhands, Ed Wood, Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street
48. John Woo & Chow Yun-Fat
Noteworthy Films: A Better Tomorrow, The Killer, Hard Boiled
47. Jeff Nichols & Michael Shannon
Noteworthy Films: Shotgun Stories, Take Shelter, Midnight Special
46. Tim Burton & Helena Bonham Carter
Noteworthy Films: Big Fish, Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street, Alice in Wonderland
45. Frank Capra & Jean Arthur
Noteworthy Films: Mr. Deeds Goes to Town, You Can't Take it With You, Mr. Smith Goes to Washington
44. The Coen Brothers & John Goodman
Noteworthy Films: Barton Fink, The Big Lebowski, O Brother Where Art Thou
43. Ryan Coogler & Michael B. Jordan
Noteworthy Films: Fruitvale Station, Creed, Black Panther
42. Jim Henson & Frank Oz
Noteworthy Films: The Great Muppet Caper, The Dark Crystal, Labyrinth
41. Yasujiro Ozu & Setsuko Hara
Noteworthy Films: Late Spring, Tokyo Story, The End of Summer
40. David Fincher & Brad Pitt
Noteworthy Films: Seven, Fight Club, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
39. Anthony Mann & James Stewart
Noteworthy Films: Winchester '73, The Naked Spur, The Man from Laramie
38. The Coen Brothers & Steve Buscemi
Noteworthy Films: Barton Fink, Fargo, The Big Lebowski
37. John Carpenter & Kurt Russell
Noteworthy Films: Escape from New York, The Thing, Big Trouble in Little China
36. George Cukor & Katharine Hepburn
Noteworthy Films: Holiday, The Philadelphia Story, Adam's Rib
35. David Lean & Alec Guinness
Noteworthy Films: Oliver Twist, The Bridge on the River Kwai, Lawrence of Arabia
34. Elia Kazan & Marlon Brando
Noteworthy Films: A Streetcar Named Desire, Viva Zapata!, On the Waterfront
33. Mel Brooks & Gene Wilder
Noteworthy Films: The Producers, Blazing Saddles, Young Frankenstein
32. Ingmar Bergman & Max Von Sydow
Noteworthy Films: The Seventh Seal, The Virgin Spring, Shame
31. Yasujiro Ozu & Chishu Ryu
Noteworthy Films: Late Spring, Tokyo Story, An Autumn Afternoon
30. Federico Fellini & Giulieta Masina
Noteworthy Films: La Strada, Nights of Cabiria, Juliet of the Spirits
29. Werner Herzog & Klaus Kinski
Noteworthy Films: Aguirre - The Wrath of God, Nosferatu the Vampyre, Fitzcarraldo
28. Howard Hawks & Cary Grant
Noteworthy Films: Bringing Up Baby, Only Angels Have Wings, His Girl Friday
27. Rainer Werner Fassbinder & Hanna Schygulla
Noteworthy Films: The Bitter Tears of Petra Von Kantz, The Marriage of Maria Braun, Berlin Alexanderplatz
15 female actors appeared on this list compared to 35 male. All the directors were male.
The Coen Brothers and Ingmar Bergman had three stars make the list, while Martin Scorsese, Alfred Hitchcock, Woody Allen, Frank Capra, Yasujiro Ozu and Tim Burton had two regulars make the list. Conversely, James Stewart had collaborations with three directors worthy of our list while Cary Grant worked with two.
Only the team of Hitchcock and Stewart made all seven lists. Six other pairs made every list but one.
Due to having appeared on four lists vs two, the team of Orson Welles and Joseph Cotten edges out Sergio Leone and Clint Eastwood in a tiebreaker for the #51 spot.
For those curious how close it was, here is my worksheet for the top 50. The first number is the total amount of points earned, and the second number is the amount of lists they appeared on. Forgive misspellings; this was just quickly copied over from my other phone (yes, I used two phones to do this whole thing - while I read the lists off one phone I typed them into another, then typed them back into the other one after adding all the points, just to grab the other one again and copy it in a reader-friendly manner here).
Godard & Karina is our perennial surprise this go-round. Just looking at the names in the ten or so spots behind them has me shocked they made the top 10. But in a good way of course.
On paper Wright and Pegg should be more my cup of tea than anyone, and I love them, but I'm baffled they made the upper half. So most of you guys will take Shaun of the Dead, Hot Fuzz and The World's End over Fruitvale Station, Creed and Black Panther (at least Coogler & Jordan squeezed in - and I'm not saying they should be top 25 either)? Okay. I though Scott Pilgrim vs The World was the EW movie everyone here gets excited about (as do I).
... Honestly that's all I've got. This list looks pretty great all around.
It's a fair list. Don't think there's any oddities anywhere. Don't blame our #1 to be a runaway for a second.
Interesting that there's no female directors... I know there's less female directors, but now that I realize it, are there any directing/acting duos with female directors at all? 🤔 _________________ Doubles & Conch
Interesting that there's no female directors... I know there's less female directors, but now that I realize it, are there any directing/acting duos with female directors at all? :-k
There are very few female directors on the Wikipedia page. We can't fault ourselves for being exclusive when there were so few to begin with. But it's okay. There are more opportunities for female directors nowadays and I think we'll get a great female director-actor combo before long. But you know who is feeling excluded? Nick Frost 🤣
There are very few female directors on the Wikipedia page. We can't fault ourselves for being exclusive when there were so few to begin with. But it's okay. There are more opportunities for female directors nowadays and I think we'll get a great female director-actor combo before long. But you know who is feeling excluded? Nick Frost :lol:
Yeah, sorry. Nobody else seems to like Frost. Even with the allowance of them as a pair you were the only one who did it.
I can't think of any female directors off the top of my head with multiple collaborations. Then again outside of maybe 3 or 4 women I don't think I've seen enough films by any female directors to qualify even if they did have regular stars.
Wait I thought of three others feeling excluded. No Michael Curtiz with either Errol Flynn or Olivia de Havilland. How did that happen? Somewhere out there, 102-year-old de Havilland is disappointed.
Wait I thought of three others feeling excluded. No Michael Curtiz with either Errol Flynn or Olivia de Havilland. How did that happen? Somewhere out there, 102-year-old de Havilland is disappointed.
I don't have the other phone with the full list of points to check this fact at the moment but I think you were the only one to vote for either.
Good list! Thanks badseed for all the work. This was a great concept for a poll and a stimulating one. In effect, each 50-team list is like voting for at least 150 films.
Guess Shaun of the Dead's popularity cannot be underestimated.
Hayden wrote:
Interesting that there's no female directors... I know there's less female directors, but now that I realize it, are there any directing/acting duos with female directors at all?
This poll made me more aware that many directors like working with the same stars or stock companies of supporting actors, while many others, for whatever reason, choose to or are obligated to work with different casts almost every time out. Kubrick's an example of someone who didn't work with the same actors again much -- the fact that he usually went a long time between films and had his pick of the biggest stars most of his career chiefly explains it.
Since there are so far fewer female directors and it's generally harder for them to get films made, it's probably harder for them to make films close enough together and have the control to hire the casts they want. Katheryn Bigelow is a good example of the former -- she was a successful director in the early 90s and hot since The Hurt Locker, but she only directed two movies between Strange Days (1995) and Hurt Locker in 2008. Agnes Varga is one of the greatest female directors, but she made a lot of documentaries and went long periods without doing fiction films. One example I can think of is Kelly Reichardt-Michelle Williams (haven't seen Meek's Cutoff, so I couldn't vote for them). Like StreetSpirit said, things are changing and there will be more female director collaborations.
StreetSpirit wrote:
No Michael Curtiz with either Errol Flynn or Olivia de Havilland. How did that happen? Somewhere out there, 102-year-old de Havilland is disappointed.
Well, you had to have seen three films by them (I don't think I have, though I've seen Robin Hood twice 😄 ) and you have to be a fairly big fan of Errol Flynn adventure movies. Wasn't much chance of anyone else voting for de Havilland (sorry, Olivia, wherever you are), just as there wasn't for Nick Frost 🙁 :).
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