[Mind Movie]

I listened to Suicide's first album yesterday, and I can safely say that "Frankie Teardrop" is, without competition, the worst shit I've ever heard.

I made me wonder why so many of these "arty" people actually listen to this kind of music - as I see it, many of these "experimental/avant-garde/arty/free-from/blablabla" artists simply can't write great songs or compositions. So instead of at least trying, they make something completely weird that simply deny the existence of euphony and melodies.

I understand that making this kind of music can be fun, and I bet Suicide laughed their ass off while recording "Frankie Teardrop". But I don't understand why people listen to this. What do you music lovers hear in "Frankie Teardrop", "Trout Mask Replica", "Metal Machine Music", "Twin Infinitives" etc. which is so great? Shouldn't music be a pleasure for the ears?

[40footwolf]

There isn't anything music "should" be.
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[Jackwc]

Also, "pleasure" is a purely subjective term.

I take my pleasure in having an orange squeezed on my erect nipples while tied to a pole with my head submerged under freezing cold water. It isn't for everyone, and neither is "Trout Mask Replica". If you don't like it, you don't like it. Not everyone has the same taste you do.
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[Yourselfisntsteam]

The creation and destruction of harmonic and 'statistical' tensions is essential to the maintenance of compositional drama. Any composition (or improvisation) which remains consonant and 'regular' throughout is, for me, equivalent to watching a movie with only 'good guys' in it, or eating cottage cheese.

Zappa quote above, I don't necessarily agree with it but its interesting.

1. Listening to a lot of music (or learning more and more about theory) I think makes one sometimes realize you can only go so far with consonant music before repeating yourself. Listening to an accessible pop song I sometimes feel I can predict exactly where the song or melody will go next, thus there is no suspense. I don't know what to expect next with weird shit.

2. Music can transmit emotion in other ways than linear melody and harmony, much of modern music is about creating a certain atmosphere or soundscape, essentially communicating though timbre instead of melody/harmony. Also you communicate with dissonance certain emotions better than with consanance In many rock albums (like suicide) its about turning the vocals into almost a theatric performance, creating emotion almost along the lines of something akin to acting.

[19loveless91]

Yeah some people apparently enjoy their music fucked up, the same how some people like Jack here have some fucked up fetishes.

I actually found TMR worth listening to, but I mostly agree with Suicide. I don't "get" that one yet. The lyrics are pretty horrible as well

[Polythene Pam]

Yeah I agree with the above posts ^^

One other thing though


Suicide is far better than Twin Infinitives, Trout Mask Replica and Metal Machine Music 😁 😁

[Hayden]

I agree to a certain level.

But, sometimes, the 'fucked up' things, are also different, and nice to listen to instead of the same rock song over and over.

Sure, there's some experimental crap that exists, but the people who knew how to use it, made some decent 'music'.

Everyone has their own opinions though 😄
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[CellarDoor]

I listen to fucked up music, read fucked up books and watch fucked up movies.








Oh dear.
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[Jackwc]

I listen to the band "Fucked Up"
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A dick that's bigger than the sun.

Music sucks. Check out my favourite movies, fam:
http://letterboxd.com/jackiegigantic/

[Norman Bates]