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theredkrayola wrote:
I'm curious to know what you think of Year of the Horse, Bright Green Field, Sarmat, Stupor, What Would The Odd Do, Diaspora Problems, and Logical And With Double Overbar. I would feel somewhat guilty about "pushing" you to listen to them, but you just listened to Coldplay and The Killers, and the albums I listed above are Scaruffi 7.5/10 or higher.

What do you think are the best songs on Nail? I think the two Pigdom Come tracks, Anything, and DI19026 are all masterpieces, but Enter The Exterminator, Descent, Throne Of Agony, and Pigswill don't reach anywhere near that level of intensity.

Do you mean that White Light/White Heat is 7/10 without Sister Ray as in that if it were an EP with the other five songs it would be a 7/10, or that if Sister Ray was replaced by an 18-minute song about as good as the other 5 songs, and if the album still included the other 5 songs as well as the 18 minute song of equal quality to the other 5 songs that the full album would be a 7/10? I personally think the album is excellent even without Sister Ray (with the exception of the mediocre Here She Comes Now). I always assumed that Scaruffi would give it a 7.5/10 or 8/10 without Sister Ray, with the inclusion of Sister Ray raising it to 9/10


Thanks for the recs. I was revisiting various 5s and 6s in music not just because I wanted to (instead of better albums) but to double check my film ratings while I have been going through, revisiting (and building) my ratings scale for "Action/Adv" movies. Listening to some 5s and 6s helps double check that I am staying accurate with 5s and 6s in film too (and vice versa).

For Nail it depends on how strictly you mean "masterpieces". No, I wouldn't rate any of the tracks alone as 9s but they are great and I have had the whole album in the 8.8-8.9 range (some years ago) so it's not out of the question I could rate it that way again. I tend to think that Downward Spiral reached greater emotional weight even if one could argue it was informed by Nail and is possibly less original. And of course, Nail is much more satirical/comic, ambiguous, while DW Spiral is more serious and more deeply personal. Nail is a very consistent album in that all of the tracks are great. But it is (somewhat, mildly) front loaded in that I would probably consider its first few tracks or so the best, as they feature its greatest, most expounded emotional and compositional development (without losing consistency amidst said expansiveness, development), while the latter tracks are smaller (but no less intense). I would have to revisit it though as I have hardly listened to it in the last five years (just a few times here and there) and have been engrossed in cinema. You didn't ask, but if you are interested in a film that is very similar in terms of emotional arc and pacing, and not too dissimilar in characterizations (of its protagonists, the disgusted, grotesque way pretty much all else is viewed) and overall tone (violent, sadistic, satiric), I would suggest Stone's Natural Born Killers, one of the most ferocious "action" films of all time. A film that would come even a little bit closer conceptually (as a closer visual comparison to the musical environment and themes of Nail, but doesn't quite match the parallel full throttle pace that NBK does, to match Nail) might be George Miller's Road Warrior. His own Mad Max (part 1) and Fury Road are pretty good comparisons too.

I meant that WL/WH if it didn't have Sister Ray or anything after track 5, so just a 5-track EP, would probably be a 7/10 (I would need to revisit to double check). And then Sister Ray alone is probably 8.6, 8.7 or maybe 8.8-8.9.
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You don't seem to like the song Krautrock as much as Scaruffi. Perhaps some thoughts about it in contrast to other longer cosmic, psychedellic tracks, such as Interstellar Overdrive?
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homelessking wrote:
You don't seem to like the song Krautrock as much as Scaruffi. Perhaps some thoughts about it in contrast to other longer cosmic, psychedellic tracks, such as Interstellar Overdrive?


That's way below the "real" list under the heading "NO LONGER ACCURATE" so isn't my rating -- it only was when I was (for a short time) rating shorter songs a bit differently and made a bunch of ratings drops that no longer apply (when everything was lower). So if it's not on my most current list, it doesn't apply, as per the notes. It's definitely not 6.1/10, but very likely 6.8/10 at least (probably 7.0 or higher). I haven't listened to it in a long time but I will say that it's not far behind Interstellar Overdrive (maybe not at all). It's like a raging, swirling, spiraling, hypnotic, cosmic, black hole, something of a precursor to Loveless (though with a less emphasized rhythm than most of Loveless)
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EXPLANATION: WHAT IS THIS LOG??? Go here: https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/v...094#571094

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Top 10+ Music, Movies, and Visual Art of the Week(s): 4-10-2023 - 4-30-2023
Pieta - Michelangelo Buonarroti (1499) [Sculpture]
David - Michelangelo Buonarroti (1504) [Sculpture]
Laurentian Library - Michelangelo Buonarroti (Begun 1525, completed posthumously, 1571; Tribune of Elci rotunda added by Pasquale Poccianti in 1841) [Architecture]
Abduction of a Sabine Woman - Giambologna (1583) [Sculpture]
Blonde On Blonde - Bob Dylan (1966)
Nail - Foetus (1985)
Are You Experienced? - Jimi Hendrix (1967)
Inception - Christopher Nolan (2010)
Moses - Michelangelo Buonarroti (1515) [Sculpture]
Exile on Main Street - Rolling Stones (1972)
Pauline Chapel: The Conversion of Saul and The Crucifixion of St. Peter - Michelangelo Buonarroti (1545; 1550)
Rondanini Pieta - Michelangelo Buonarroti (1564)
Batman Returns - Tim Burton (1992)
Nevermind - Nirvana (1991)

Top 10+ Albums/Movies/Visual Art for the Week(s) - Rated 2.8/10 to 6.7/10
The Fast and the Furious - Rob Cohen (2001)
The Dark Knight - Christopher Nolan (2008)
The Da Vinci Code - Ron Howard (2006)

FAMILIAR FILMS - RE-RATED:
Inception - Christopher Nolan (2010) 6.9/10 to 7.2/10
Batman Returns - Tim Burton (1992) 7.0/10 to 6.8/10
The Dark Knight - Christopher Nolan (2008) 7.0/10 to 6.5/10; 6.5/10 to 6.6/10
Death Wish 2 - Michael Winner (1982) 6.5/10 to 6.6/10
The Running Man - Paul Michael Glaser (1987) 6.5/10 to 6.6/10
48 Hours - Walter Hill (1982)[/b][/color] 6.5/10 to 6.6/10
Bad Boys - Michael Bay (1995) 6.4/10 to 6.5/10
The Da Vinci Code - Ron Howard (2006) 4.9/10 to 4.3/10; 4.3/10 to 4.4/10

NEWLY WATCHED FILMS - RATED:
The Fast and the Furious - Rob Cohen (2001) 5.5/10

FAMILIAR PAINTINGS/VISUAL ART - RE-RATED:
Abduction of a Sabine Woman - Giambologna (1583) [Sculpture] Not Rated to 7.5/10
Laurentian Library - Michelangelo Buonarroti (Begun 1525, completed posthumously, 1571; Tribune of Elci rotunda added by Pasquale Poccianti in 1841) [Architecture] 7.3/10 to 7.4/10

TOP 50 WORKS OF ART OF THE YEAR (2023)
In the Aeroplane Over the Sea - Neutral Milk Hotel (1998)
Nostalghia - Andrei Tarkovsky (1983)
Stalker - Andrei Tarkovsky (1979)
Zen Arcade - Husker Du (1984)
Persona - Ingmar Bergman (1966)
Down Colorful Hill - Red House Painters (1992)
Blow-Up - Michelangelo Antonioni (1966)
Werckmeister Harmonies - Bela Tarr (2000)
The Conversation - Francis Ford Coppola (1974)
Alien - Ridley Scott (1979)
Double Nickels on the Dime - Minutemen (1984)
Astral Weeks - Van Morrison (1968)
Violin Concertos Nos. 1-4, "The Four Seasons" - Antonio Vivaldi (1723)
The Days of Wine & Roses - Dream Syndicate (1982)
Memento - Christopher Nolan (2000)
The Big Heat - Stan Ridgway (1986)
Death Wish 3 - Michael Winner (1985)
Good - Morphine (1992)
The River - Bruce Springsteen (1980)
Nashville - Robert Altman (1975)
Repeater - Fugazi (1990)
Fire of Love - Gun Club (1981)
Three Colors: Red - Krzysztof Kieslowski (1994)
The Big Heat - Fritz Lang (1953)
Medici Chapel: The Sagrestia Nuova - Michelangelo Buonarroti (1555) [Sculpture and Architecture]
David - Michelangelo Buonarroti (1504) [Sculpture]
The Band - The Band (1969)
The Game - David Fincher (1997)
Point Blank - John Boorman (1967)
Leon: The Professional - Luc Besson (1994)
The Rules of the Game - Jean Renoir (1939)
Yerself is Steam - Mercury Rev (1991)
Geek the Girl - Lisa Germano (1994)
Images and Words - Dream Theater (1992)
Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables - Dead Kennedy's (1980)
The Godfather - Francis Ford Coppola (1972)
Spiderland - Slint (1991)
Dolmen Music - Meredith Monk (1981)
Laurentian Library - Michelangelo Buonarroti (Begun 1525, completed posthumously, 1571; Tribune of Elci rotunda added by Pasquale Poccianti in 1841) [Architecture]
Doolittle - Pixies (1989)
Dummy - Portishead (1994)
Frigid Stars - Codeine (1990)
The Lion and the Cobra - Sinead O'Connor (1987)
Fallingwater - Frank Lloyd Wright (1939) [Architecture]
The Lobster - Yorgos Lanthimos (2015)
The Power of the Dog - Jane Campion (2021)
The Parallax View - Alan Pakula (1974)
Moses - Michelangelo Buonarroti (1515) [Sculpture]
Spleen & Ideal - Dead Can Dance (1985)
So Tonight That I Might See - Mazzy Star (1993)
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Working on this, recommendations/discussion welcome...

Best Action/Adventure and (Action/Adventure) Thriller Films

IN-PROGRESS...

* = Arguable genre selection, may be removed upon revisit or if I tweak the genre qualifications a little bit.


9/10
<<<<<8.8>>>>>
North By Northwest - Alfred Hitchcock (1959)

8.5/10
<<<<<8.4>>>>>
*Metropolis - Fritz Lang (1927) ["The Complete Metropolis", 147 minutes]

8/10
<<<<<8.2>>>>>
Love Exposure - Sion Sono (2008)
The Wild Bunch - Sam Peckinpah (1969) [Director's Cut, 145 minutes]
<<<<<8.1>>>>>
*Apocalypse Now - Francis Ford Coppola (1979)
<<<<<8.0>>>>>
*Once Upon a Time in the West - Sergio Leone (1968)
<<<<<7.9>>>>>>
*The Holy Mountain - Alejandro Jodorowsky (1973)
*Point Blank - John Boorman (1967)
The Seven Samurai - Akira Kurosawa (1954)
Oldboy - Chan-wook Park (2003)
Bullet in the Head - John Woo (1990)
<<<<<7.8>>>>>
*Reservoir Dogs - Quentin Tarantino (1992)
Leon: The Professional - Luc Besson (1994) [Original Cut, 110 minutes; Extended Cut: 7.4/10]
Natural Born Killers - Oliver Stone (1994) [Director's Cut, 123 minutes]

7.5/10
<<<<<7.7>>>>>
*Zardoz - John Boorman (1974)
Walkabout - Nicolas Roeg (1971)
<<<<<7.6>>>>>
Face/Off - John Woo (1997)
Hero - Zhang Yimou (2002)
The Treasure of the Sierra Madre - John Huston (1948)
*Blade Runner - Ridley Scott (1982) [The Final Cut, 117 minutes]
Bonnie & Clyde - Arthur Penn (1967)
*The Big Heat - Fritz Lang (1953)
Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia - Sam Peckinpah (1974)
<<<<<7.5>>>>>
Death Wish 3 - Michael Winner (1985)
King of New York - Abel Ferrara (1990)
The Killer - John Woo (1989)
<<<<<7.4>>>>>
*The Birds - Alfred Hitchcock (1963)
*Inglorious Basterds - Quentin Tarantino (2009)
*Frantic - Roman Polanski (1988)
The Getaway - Sam Peckinpah (1972)
*City of God - Fernando Meirelles (2002)
Dirty Harry - Don Siegel (1971)
*Salvador - Oliver Stone (1986)
Baby Driver - Edgar Wright (2017)
*The Game - David Fincher (1997)
Hard Boiled - John Woo (1992)
Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior - George Miller (1981)
Ran - Akira Kurosawa (1985)
*Harakiri - Masaki Kobayashi (1962)
Scarface - Howard Hawks (1932)
Star Wars - George Lucas (1977)
*To Catch a Thief - Alfred Hitchcock (1955)
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly - Sergio Leone (1966)
<<<<<7.3>>>>>
LA Confidential - Curtis Hanson (1998)
*Spirited Away - Hayao Miyazaki (2001)
Emperor of the North - Robert Aldrich (1973)
The Terminator - James Cameron (1984)
*Deliverance - John Boorman (1971)
*Uncut Gems - Josh and Benny Safdie (2019)
*Strange Days - Kathryn Bigelow (1995)
*Heat - Michael Mann (1995)
*The Searchers - John Ford (1956)
*Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels - Guy Ritchie (1998)
Mad Max - George Miller (1979)
La Femme Nikita - Luc Besson (1990)
*Invasion of the Body Snatchers - Don Siegel (1956)
The General - Buster Keaton (1926)
*Aguirre, the Wrath of God - Werner Herzog (1972)
*Ghostbusters - Ivan Reitman (1984)
Brawl in Cell Block 99 - S. Craig Zahler (2017)

(Several entries below this point are missing and will be added once remembered or revisited. A number have already been included on additional sections below)

7/10
<<<7.2>>>
Mission: Impossible III - J. J. Abrams (2006)
Princess Mononoke - Hayao Miyazaki (1997)
The Hidden Fortress - Akira Kurosawa (1958) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
*The French Connection - William Friedkin (1971)
*The Parallax View - Alan Pakula (1974)
*Fight Club - David Fincher (1999)
*Back to the Future - Robert Zemeckis (1985)
*Scarface - Brian DePalma (1983)
*Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid - George Roy Hill (1969)
Mars Attacks! - Tim Burton (1996)
Assault on Precinct 13 - John Carpenter - John Carpenter (1976)
Hot Fuzz – Edgar Wright (2007)
The Blues Brothers - John Landis (1980) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Minority Report - Steven Spielberg (2002)
Inception - Christopher Nolan (2010)
Exiled - Johnnie To (2006)
Total Recall - Paul Verhoeven (1990)
*Duel - Steven Spielberg (1971)
*Yojimbo - Akira Kurosawa (1961) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Time Bandits – Terry Gilliam (1981)
*Stagecoach - John Ford (1939)
King Kong - Merian C. Cooper and Ernest B. Schoedsack (1933)
<<<7.1>>>
Scott Pilgrim vs. The World – Edgar Wright (2010)
Raiders of the Lost Ark - Steven Speilberg (1980)
The City of Lost Children - Jean-Pierre Jeunet and Marc Caro (1995)
The Fifth Element - Luc Besson (1996)
21 Jump Street - Phil Lord; Christopher Miller (2012)
*Falling Down - Joel Schumacher (1993)
*Children of Men - Alfonso Cuaron (2006)
A Better Tomorrow - John Woo (1986)
Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back - Irvin Kershner (1980)
*Jaws - Steven Spielberg (1975)
*Monty Python and the Holy Grail - Terry Gilliam and Terry Jones (1975)
*Dark City - Alex Proyas (1998)
Escape From New York - John Carpenter (1981)
Run Lola Run - Tom Twyker (1998)
*O Brother, Where Art Thou? - Joel Coen (2000)
*Saving Private Ryan - Steven Spielberg (1998)
*The 39 Steps - Alfred Hitchcock (1935)
*Miller's Crossing - Joel Coen (1990)
*The African Queen - John Huston (1951)
*White Heat - Raoul Walsh (1949)
*Wages of Fear - Henri-Georges Clouzot (1953)
*All Quiet on the Western Front - Lewis Milestone (1930)
*Battleship Potemkin - Sergei Eisenstein (1925)
<<<7.0>>>
True Lies – James Cameron (1994)
*Blade Runner 2049 - Denis Villeneuve (2017)
Lawrence of Arabia - David Lean (1962) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Robocop - Paul Verhoeven (1987)
*Hell in the Pacific - John Boorman (1968)
*The Great Race - Blake Edwards (1965) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Wall-E - Andrew Stanton (2008)
Conspiracy Theory - Richard Donner (1997)
The Thief of Baghdad - Raoul Walsh (1924) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
First Blood - Ted Kotcheff (1982)
*Training Day - Antoine Fuqua (2001)
Enemy of the State - Tony Scott (1998)
Inside Out - Pete Docter (2015)
Platoon - Oliver Stone (1986)
Lethal Weapon - Richard Donner (1987)
Die Hard - John McTiernan (1988)
Goldfinger - Guy Hamilton (1964) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
*South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut - Trey Parker (1999)
*Night of the Living Dead - George Romero (1968)
*Kagemusha - Akira Kurosawa (1980)
*Soylent Green - Richard Fleischer (1973)
*Outbreak - Wolfgang Petersen (1995)
Predator - John McTiernan (1987)
In the Line of Fire - Wolfgang Petersen (1993)
*For a Few Dollars More - Sergio Leone (1965) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Toy Story - John Lasseter (1995)
No Country For Old Men - Joel and Ethan Coen (2007)
Cross of Iron - Sam Peckinpah (1977) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
*Fantastic Voyage - Richard Fleischer (1966) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
*Forbidden Planet - Fred Wilcox (1956) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
The Matrix - Lana Wachowski; Lilly Wachowski (1999)
*Full Metal Jacket - Stanley Kubrick (1987)
*E.T. the Extra Terrestrial - Steven Spielberg (1982)
Logan's Run - Michael Anderson (1976)
*Charley Varrick - Don Siegel (1973)
*Ben Hur - William Wyler (1959) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Das Boot - Wolfgang Peterson (1981)
Runaway Train - Andrei Konchalovsky (1985)
*To Live and Die in LA - William Friedkin (1985)
*Akira - Katsuhiro Otomo (1988)
*Saboteur - Alfred Hitchcock (1942) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
*Bullitt - Peter Yates (1968)
*Riders of Justice - Anders Thomas Jensen (2020)
<<<<<6.9>>>>>
*Death Wish - Michael Winner (1974)
*Get Carter - Mike Hodges (1971)
*Road to Perdition - Sam Mendes (2002)
Planet of the Apes - Franklin J. Schaffner (1968)
Everything Everywhere All at Once - Dan Kwan and Daniel Scheinert (2022) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
*Shaun of the Dead - Edgar Wright (2004)
Terminator 2: Judgment Day - James Cameron (1992)
Alice - Jan Svankmajer (1988)
The Towering Inferno - John Guillermin (1974) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl - Gore Verbinski (2003) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Beverly Hills Cop - Martin Brest (1984)
Batman - Tim Burton (1989)
Toy Story 3 - Lee Unkrich (2010)
*The Witches - Nicolas Roeg (1990)
*Cast Away - Robert Zemeckis (2000)
*28 Days Later - Danny Boyle (2002)
*The Adjustment Bureau - George Nolfi (2011)
Pinocchio - Ben Sharpsteen (Walt Disney) (1940)
*Interstellar - Christopher Nolan (2014)
Galaxy Quest - Dean Parisot (1999)
RRR - S. S. Rajamouli (2022)
*Ransom - Ron Howard (1996)
Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi - Richard Marquand (1983)
Mission: Impossible - Brian De Palma (1996)
John Wick - Chad Stahelski (2014)
Mad Max: Fury Road - George Miller (2015)
*Gremlins - Joe Dante (1984)
Magnum Force - Ted Post (1973)
*Foreign Correspondent - Alfred Hitchcock (1940) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
From Russia With Love - Terrence Young (1963) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
<<<<<6.8>>>>>
The Crow - Alex Proyas (1994)
Dr. No - Terrence Young (1962) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
District 9 - Neill Blomkamp (2009)
The Adventures of Robin Hood - Michael Curtiz (1938) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King - Peter Jackson (2003) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
*Unforgiven - Clint Eastwood (1992)
Batman Returns - Tim Burton (1992)
*Rollerball - Norman Jewison (1975)
Dirty Dozen - Robert Aldrich (1967)
Romancing the Stone - Robert Zemeckis (1984)
The Adventures of Baron Manchausen - Terry Gilliam (1988)
Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome - George Miller (1985)
*The Karate Kid - John Avildsen (1984)
Toy Story 2 - John Lasseter (1999)
*Allied - Robert Zemeckis (2016)
The Killer Elite - Sam Peckinpah (1975) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Men in Black - Barry Sonnenfeld (1997)
Sin City - Robert Rodriguez and Frank Miller (2005)
They Live - John Carpenter (1988)
*1917 - Sam Mendes (2019) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Gravity - Alfonso Cuaron (2013)
*Fistful Of Dollars - Sergio Leone (1964) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
The Matrix Reloaded - Lana and Lilly Wachowski (2003)
Excalibur - John Boorman (1981)
*Fitzcarraldo - Werner Herzog (1982) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
*Barbarella - Roger Vadim (1968) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Enter the Dragon - Robert Clouse (1973)
*Godzilla - Ishiro Honda (1954) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Police Story - Jackie Chan (1985)
*Westworld - Michael Crichton (1973)
The Neverending Story - Wolfgang Petersen (1984)

6.5/10
<<<<<6.7>>>>>
*Rocky IV - Sylvester Stallone (1985)
Rush Hour - Brett Ratner (1998)
*Dead Presidents - Allen and Albert Hughes (1995)
*The Revenant - Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu (2015) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Logan - James Mangold (2017)
Mission: Impossible — Fallout - Christopher McQuarrie (2018)
Prometheus - Ridley Scott (2012)
Gladiator - Ridley Scott (2000)
<<<<<6.6>>>>>
Speed - Jan de Bont (1994) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
We Were Soldiers - Randall Wallace (2002) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
The Dark Knight - Christopher Nolan (2008)
Snowpiercer - Joon-ho Bong (2014)
Pitch Black - David Twohy (2000) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
*Titanic - James Cameron (1997)
The Rock - Michael Bay (1996)
Death Wish 2 - Michael Winner (1982)
The Running Man - Paul Michael Glaser (1987)
48 Hours - Walter Hill (1982)
Death Proof - Quentin Tarantino (2007)
<<<<<6.5>>>>>
The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring - Peter Jackson (2001) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
The Right Stuff - Phillip Kaufman (1983) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Sudden Impact - Clint Eastwood (1983) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Battle Royale - Kinji Fukasaku (2000) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
The Fugitive - Andrew Davis (1993)
*The Killing - Stanley Kubrick (1956)
Robocop 2 - Ivan Kershner (1990)
*Miami Vice - Michael Mann (2006) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
*AI Artificial Intelligence - Steven Spielberg (2001)
Kung Fu Hustle - Stephen Chow (2004)
Bad Boys - Michael Bay (1995)
The Untouchables - Brian De Palma (1987)
Avatar - James Cameron (2009)
*Dances With Wolves - Kevin Costner (1990) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
<<<<<6.4>>>>>
The Raid - Gareth Evans (2011) [aka, "The Raid: Redemption" in the US]
Road House - Rowdy Harrington (1989)
Darkman - Sam Raimi (1990)
Alien: Resurrection - Jean-Pierre Jeunet (1997)
Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith - George Lucas (2005) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Patriot Games - Phillip Noyce (1992) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Clear and Present Danger - Phillip Noyce (1994) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
*The Enforcer - James Fargo (1976) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
*The Wizard of Oz - Victor Fleming (1939)
Labyrinth - Jim Hensen (1986)
The Lion King - Roger Allers and Rob Minkoff (1994)
The Little Mermaid - Ron Clements and John Musker (1989)
Die Hard With a Vengence - John McTiernan (1995) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Edge of Tomorrow - Doug Liman (2014)
The Thomas Crown Affair - John McTiernan (1999) [remake]
The Dark Knight Rises - Christopher Nolan (2012)
*Stakeout - John Badham (1987) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
<<<<<6.3>>>>>
Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World - Peter Weir (2003) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
*Flight of the Navigator - Randal Kleiser (1986)
Oblivion - Joseph Kosinski (2013)
*Enemy Mine - Wolfgang Petersen (1985)
*Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon - Ang Lee (2000) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
The Bourne Ultimatum - Paul Greengrass (2007)
War of the Worlds - Steven Spielberg (2005)
Toy Story 4 - Josh Cooley (2019)
Backdraft - Ron Howard (1991)
*The Martian - Ridley Scott (2015)
Batman Forever - Joel Schumacher (1995)

6/10
<<<<<6.2>>>>>
Jurassic Park - Steven Spielberg (1993)
Spiderman 2 - Sam Raimi (2004)
Aladdin - Ron Clements and John Musker (1992)
Tron - Steven Lisberger (1982) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
The Bourne Supremacy - Paul Greengrass (2004)
*Jaws 2 - Jeannot Szwarc (1978)
*Spartacus - Stanley Kubrick (1960) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Braveheart - Mel Gibson (1995) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
*Menace II Society - Allen and Albert Hughes (1993) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Starship Troopers - Paul Verhoeven (1997) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
*The Man Who Would Be King - John Huston (1975) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
*Open Range - Kevin Costner (2003) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
The Abyss - James Cameron (1989)
Last Action Hero - John McTiernan (1993) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
<<<<<6.1>>>>>
*The Batman - Matt Reeves (2022)
Hook - Steven Spielberg (1991) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Deadpool - Tim Miller (2016)
The Bourne Identity - Doug Liman (2002)
Convoy - Sam Peckinpah (1978)
*The Simpsons Movie - David Silverman (2007)
*In Time - Andrew Nicchol (2011) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Waterworld - Kevin Reynolds (1995)
*The Firm - Sydney Pollack (1993)
The Last Samurai - Edward Zwick (2003) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Tropic Thunder - Ben Stiller (2008) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Up - Pete Docter (2009)
X-Men - Bryan Singer (2000)
<<<<<6.0>>>>>
Air Force One - Wolfgang Petersen (1997)
Point Break - Kathryn Bigelow (1991) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
The Emerald Forest - John Boorman (1985)
Spiderman - Sam Raimi (2002)
*The Arrival - David Twohy (1996) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
*Shrek 2 - Andrew Adamson, Kelly Asbury and Conrad Vernon (2004)
Ronin - John Frankenheimer (1998) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Spiderman 3 - Sam Raimi (2007)
*American Made - Doug Liman (2017) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
The Goonies - Richard Donner (1985) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
*Big Fish - Tim Burton (2003) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Dick Tracy - Warren Beatty (1990)
From Dusk Til Dawn - Robert Rodriguez (1996) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Desperado - Robert Rodriguez (1995) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Armageddon - Michael Bay (1998) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
*Dune - David Lynch (1984) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Speed Racer - Lana and Lilly Wachowski (2008)
Guardians of the Galaxy - James Gunn (2014) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Hard Target - John Woo (1993) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Goldeneye - Martin Campbell (1995) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Superman - Richard Donner (1978) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Apollo 13 - Ron Howard (1995) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Red Dawn - John Milius (1984)
Commando - Mark Lester (1985)
Black Hawk Down - Ridley Scott (2001) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Legend - Ridley Scott (1985) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Alexander Nevsky - Sergei Eisenstein (1938)
<<<<<5.9>>>>>
Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure - Stephen Herek (1989) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
*Rob Roy - Michael Caton-Jones (1995) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
*Joe Versus the Volcano - John Patrick Shanley (1990)
Kindergarten Cop - Ivan Reitman (1990) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Cowboys and Aliens - Jon Favreau (2011) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers - Peter Jackson (2002) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Stargate - Roland Emmerich (1994) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Indiana Jones and The Temple Of Doom - Steven Spielberg (1984)
*The Panic Room - David Fincher (2002) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Casino Royale - Martin Campbell (2006)
Con Air - Simon West (1997) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Last of the Mohicans - Michael Mann (1992)
*Moby Dick - John Huston (1956) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
I, Robot - Alex Proyas (2004) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
*I am Legend - Francis Lawrence (2007) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
<<<<<5.8>>>>>
The Princess Bride - Rob Reiner (1987) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Men in Black II - Barry Sonnenfeld (2002) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Lethal Weapon 2 - Richard Donner (1989) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
The Perfect Storm - Wolfgang Petersen (2000) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Wild Wild West - Barry Sonnenfeld (1999) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Blade 2 - Guillermo del Toro (2002) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
The Quick and the Dead - Sam Raimi (1995) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Blade - Stephen Norrington (1998) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
*The Hunt For Red October - John McTiernan (1990) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Star Trek - J.J. Abrams (2009) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Flesh and Blood - Paul Verhoeven (1985)
*Honey, I Shrunk the Kids - Joe Johnston (1989)
Back to the Future, Part II - Robert Zemeckis (1989)
Judge Dredd - Danny Cannon (1995)
Mission: Impossible — Ghost Protocol - Brad Bird (2011)
Dredd - Pete Travis (2012) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
The Postman - Kevin Costner (1997) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
*Stand By Me - Rob Reiner (1986)
*Valkyrie - Bryan Singer (2008)

5.5/10
<<<<<5.7>>>>>
*V for Vendetta - James McTeague (2005)
Swiss Family Robinson - Ken Annakin (1960) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Finding Nemo - Andrew Stanton (2003)
*Crimson Tide - Tony Scott (1995)
The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe - Andrew Adamson (2005) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone - Chris Columbus (2001) [aka, "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone"]
Alice in Wonderland - Tim Burton (2010) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Die Hard 2 - Renny Harlin (1990) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Tango & Cash - Andrei Konchalovsky (1989) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
<<<<<5.6>>>>>
*Snake Eyes - Brian De Palma (1998)
Willow - Ron Howard (1988)
A Knight's Tale - Brian Helgeland (2001) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Bad Boys II - Michael Bay (2003) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
X-Men: The Last Stand - Brett Ratner (2006) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Demolition Man - Marco Brambilla (1993) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
*Pee-wee's Big Adventure - Tim Burton (1985) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
*Journey to the Center of the Earth - Henry Levin (1959) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
<<<<<5.5>>>>>
Kill Bill, Vol. 1 - Quentin Tarantino (2003) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
*Six Days Seven Nights - Ivan Reitman (1998)
Sudden Death - Peter Hyams (1995) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Point of No Return - John Badham (1993) [remake of Besson's La Femme Nikita] ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Collateral - Michael Mann (2004)
Back to the Future, Part III - Robert Zemeckis (1990)
*Seven Years in Tibet - Jean-Jacques Annaud (1997) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Batman Begins - Christopher Nolan (2005)
The Fast and the Furious - Rob Cohen (2001)
*American Sniper - Clint Eastwood (2014)
<<<<<5.4>>>>>
Shrek - Andrew Adamson and Vicky Jenson (2001)
Big Trouble in Little China - John Carpenter (1986) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
*The Cannonball Run - Hal Needham (1981) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Conan the Barbarian - John Milius (1982)
Kung Fu Panda - Mark Osborne and John Stevenson (2008) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Ip Man - Wilson Yip (2008)
Jumanji - Joe Johnston (1995) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Twister - Jan De Bont (1996)
*Gran Torino - Clint Eastwood (2008) (Note: To be removed from this genre list)
The Hunger Games: Catching Fire - Francis Lawrence (2013)
Dune - Denis Villenueve (2021)
*Deep Impact - Mimi Leder (1998) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
*Tremors - Ron Underwood (1990)
<<<<<5.3>>>>>
The Incredibles - Brad Bird (2004)
Lethal Weapon 3 - Richard Donner (1992) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
*Pirates - Roman Polański (1986) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Knight and Day - James Mangold (2010)
*Adventures in Baby Sitting - Chris Columbus (1987)
Johnny Mnemonic - Robert Longo (1995) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Timecop - Peter Hyams (1994)
Star Wars: Episode VII – The Force Awakens - J.J. Abrams (2015) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Top Gun: Maverick - Joseph Kosinski (2022)
*Angels and Demons - Ron Howard (2009) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
*Cool World - Ralph Bakshi (1992)

5/10
<<<<<5.2>>>>>
The Mummy - Stephen Sommers (1999) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
*Dragnet - Tom Mankiewicz (1987) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Another Stakeout - John Badham (1993) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
*Mr. & Mrs. Smith - Doug Liman (2005) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
World War Z - Marc Forster (2013) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Under Siege - Andrew Davis (1992) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Independence Day - Roland Emmerich (1996) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Aliens - James Cameron (1986) [Original Theatrical Cut, 137 minutes; Extended "Special Edition" Cut, 154 min: 5.0/10]
Congo - Frank Marshall (1995) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves - Kevin Reynolds (1991) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Ice Age - Chris Wedge (2002) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
The Hunger Games - Gary Ross (2012)
Hulk - Ang Lee (2003) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
The Polar Express - Robert Zemeckis (2004) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Cyborg - Albert Pyun (1989)
Jack Reacher: Never Go Back - Edward Zwick (2016)
Batman & Robin - Joel Schumacher (1997)
<<<<<5.1>>>>>
Broken Arrow - John Woo (1996) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
300 - Zack Snyder (2006) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Predator 2 - Stephen Hopkins (1990)
Days of Thunder - Tony Scott (1990)
X2 - Bryan Singer (2003)
Cliffhanger - Renny Harlin (1993)
The Mask of Zorro - Martin Campbell (1998) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Elysium - Neill Blomkamp (2013) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
*Alien 3 - David Fincher (1992) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Wonder Woman - Patty Jenkins (2017)
Black Panther - Ryan Coogler (2018)
The Last Starfighter - Nick Castle (1984) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
*20,000 Leagues Under the Sea - Richard Fleischer (1954) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
<<<<<5.0>>>>>
The Lost World: Jurassic Park - Steven Spielberg (1997)
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade - Steven Spielberg (1989)
Mission: Impossible — Rogue Nation - Christopher McQuarrie (2015)
*October (Ten Days that Shook the World) - Sergei Eisenstein (1927)
Rambo: First Blood Part II - George P. Cosmatos (1985)
Life of Pi - Ang Lee (2012)
Ip Man 3 - Wilson Yip (2015)
Ip Man 2: Legend of the Grandmaster - Wilson Yip (2010)
Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi - Rian Johnson (2017) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 2 - James Gunn (2017) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Top Gun - Tony Scott (1986)
Jack Reacher - Christopher McQuarrie (2012)
Kill Bill, Vol. 2 - Quentin Tarantino (2004) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
GI Jane - Ridley Scott (1997) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Conan the Destroyer - Richard Fleischer (1984) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
*Far and Away - Ron Howard (1992) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
*Leviathan - George P. Cosmatos (1982) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
<<<<<4.9>>>>>
*Turner and Hooch - Roger Spottiswoode (1989) (Note: To be removed from this genre list)
The Rocketeer - Joe Johnston (1991)
Frozen - Chris Buck and Jennifer Lee (2009) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Masters of the Universe - Gary Goddard (1987) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
King Kong - Peter Jackson (2005) [remake] ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Jupiter Ascending - Lana and Lilly Wachowski (2015)
<<<<<4.8>>>>>
The Land Before Time - Don Bluth (1988)
The Mask - Chuck Russell (1994)
Iron Man - Jon Favreau (2008)
Star Wars: Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker - J.J. Abrams (2019) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Above the Law - Andrew Davis (1988) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
2012 - Roland Emmerich (2009) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Ip Man 4: The Finale - Wilson Yip (2019)
*Wyatt Earp - Lawrence Kasdan (1994) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***

4.5/10
<<<<<4.7>>>>>
Hard to Kill - Bruce Malmuth (1990) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Jurassic World - Colin Trevorrow (2015) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Superman Returns - Bryan Singer (2006) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
The Incredible Hulk - Louis Leterrier (2008)
<<<<<4.6>>>>>
Star Wars: Episode 1 - The Phantom Menace - George Lucas (1999)
Rambo III - Peter MacDonald (1988)
<<<<<4.5>>>>>
*The Day After Tomorrow - Roland Emmerich (2004) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Godzilla - Roland Emmerich (1998) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Jurassic Park III - Joe Johnston (2001) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
K-9 - Rod Daniel (1989) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Man of Steel - Zack Snyder (2013) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
<<<<<4.4>>>>>
Divergent - Neil Burger (2014) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
*The Da Vinci Code - Ron Howard (2002)
<<<<<4.3>>>>>
Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones - George Lucas (2002) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull - Steven Spielberg (2008) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
The Mummy Returns - Stephen Sommers (2001) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Pearl Harbor - Michael Bay (2001) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
*The Iron Giant - Brad Bird (1999)

4/10
<<<<<4.2/10>>>>>
Anaconda - Luis Llosa (1997) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines - Jonathan Mostow (2003)
Double Impact - Sheldon Lettich (1991) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Cobra - George P. Cosmatos (1986)
<<<<<4.1/10>>>>>
Mission: Impossible II - John Woo (2000)
Lionheart - Sheldon Lettich (1990) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
Kickboxer - David Worth (1989) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
<<<<<4.0/10>>>>>
Alice in Wonderland - Clyde Geronimi, Wilfred Jackson and Hamilton Luske (1951)
<<<<<3.9/10>>>>>
<<<<<3.8/10>>>>>
Robocop 3 - Fred Dekker (1993) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
*Super Mario Bros. - Rocky Morton and Annabel Jankel (1993) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
The Mummy - Alex Kurtzman (2017) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***

3.5/10
<<<<<3.7>>>>>
On Deadly Ground - Steven Seagal (1994) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
<<<<<3.6>>>>>
Universal Soldier - Roland Emmerich (1992)
<<<<<3.4>>>>>
Bloodsport - Newt Arnold (1988)


3/10
Gymkata - Robert Clouse (1985) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***
<<<<<2.8>>>>>
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles - Steve Barron (1990)
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: The Secret of the Ooze - Michael Pressman (1991) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***

2.5/10
<<<<<2.3>>>>>
*Dinosaurus! - Irvin S. Yeaworth Jr. (1960) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***

2/10
*The Lost World - Irwin Allen (1960) ***tentative rating/may need a revisit***


Add...
Branded to Kill - Seijun Suzuki (1967)
Karate Kid 2, 3 ... Do they qualify??? (Not as much "martial arts action" as the first, which barely qualifies if it even does)
Fists of Fury
Drunken Master
Hitchcock thrillers that qualify
Jaws 3, 4?
Jet Li
Other Jackie Chan: Rumble in the Bronx...
Does Pulp Fiction maybe (barely) qualify? Goodfellas maybe? Mean Streets maybe?
Gattaca qualify?
Catch Me if You Can?
Other Harrison Ford ... Witness enough of an "action" thriller?
Shane? The Searchers? Stagecoach? Unforgiven? Tombstone?
Naked Gun and sequels?
Hot Shots 1 and Part Deux (satires on Rambo etc)
Airplane qualify as "action-disaster"?
Adventures of Robin Hood (Eroll Flynn)
Excalibur? (Boorman)
The Adjustment Bureau qualify?
Dirty Harry sequels: Magnum Force, Sudden Impact

To See / Recs...
Facetious: RRR (and other S.S. Rajamouli films) for the action list? I would also recommend the Bollywood classic Sholay, and a lesser known but extremely campy Pakistani action (/comedy?) International Guerillas (which you can find here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAQlYGeprhk)
Dead or Alive - Takashi Miike
The Raid and its sequel
Crank and its sequel
DommeDamian: How to Train Your Dragon
John Wick 2, 3, 4
A lot of (ugh) MCU movies
Where the Wild Things Are
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AfterHours wrote:
TiggaTrigga wrote:
Are you actually going to watch all the MCU movies? Come on now, you know it ain't worth it man, it ain't worth it... Brick wall

But seriously that's dedication right there, I didn't even know there were 28 of those things.


Hats off to Domme Damian for surviving that but I really, really doubt I'll ever get to all of them.


Look, I am still trynna recover.

Rarely does a movie feel bad while watching for me, but these movies did and that is, by definition, breaking new grounds of terrible. I only ended up watching them in the first place since everywhere I went on the internet, people kept referencing stuff happening and I got that feeling of being uncultured. I can count on less than one hand, the movies I would return to. One of them is the first Doctor Strange, because that's where the psychedelic effects, the storyline and character movement actually has content behind it. That is the only movie I actually think is quite incredible (of what I remember, it's also Scaruffi's highest rated MCU movie at a 6.9). Another one, to a less extent is Guardians of The Galaxy (and a few scenes from the second) mainly because the humor is on the spot unlike nearly another movie in the MCU. I also liked some scenes and ideas in Thor Ragnarok but the movie isn't that great though. Martin Scorsese has been right this entire time; these are not films, they are theme park movies, but even worse because most of it is lazy greenscreening. Also, they have quickly found out that humor makes people love it, so they add it an unnecessary joke every 5 seconds, even though 95% of it is forced and stupid.
Unlike some truly entertaining and enjoyable movies like John Wick, where most of it is real stunts, non-cringey storylines, no effects (besides gunshots and such), and awesome camerawork, everything about MCU is so fake. Not to mention the consistency of plot holes, lack of superhero-awareness, and whatnot is on par with the greatness of Citizen Kane.
AfterHours, if I was you, I would not (with the limited time) use it to these consumer products like MCU.

But again, I don't regret going through them, because then I wouldn't find myself loving the more artistic and cinematic side of movies as much.
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DommeDamian wrote:
AfterHours wrote:
TiggaTrigga wrote:
Are you actually going to watch all the MCU movies? Come on now, you know it ain't worth it man, it ain't worth it... Brick wall

But seriously that's dedication right there, I didn't even know there were 28 of those things.


Hats off to Domme Damian for surviving that but I really, really doubt I'll ever get to all of them.


Look, I am still trynna recover.

Rarely does a movie feel bad while watching for me, but these movies did and that is, by definition, breaking new grounds of terrible. I only ended up watching them in the first place since everywhere I went on the internet, people kept referencing stuff happening and I got that feeling of being uncultured. I can count on less than one hand, the movies I would return to. One of them is the first Doctor Strange, because that's where the psychedelic effects, the storyline and character movement actually has content behind it. That is the only movie I actually think is quite incredible (of what I remember, it's also Scaruffi's highest rated MCU movie at a 6.9). Another one, to a less extent is Guardians of The Galaxy (and a few scenes from the second) mainly because the humor is on the spot unlike nearly another movie in the MCU. I also liked some scenes and ideas in Thor Ragnarok but the movie isn't that great though. Martin Scorsese has been right this entire time; these are not films, they are theme park movies, but even worse because most of it is lazy greenscreening. Also, they have quickly found out that humor makes people love it, so they add it an unnecessary joke every 5 seconds, even though 95% of it is forced and stupid.
Unlike some truly entertaining and enjoyable movies like John Wick, where most of it is real stunts, non-cringey storylines, no effects (besides gunshots and such), and awesome camerawork, everything about MCU is so fake. Not to mention the consistency of plot holes, lack of superhero-awareness, and whatnot is on par with the greatness of Citizen Kane.
AfterHours, if I was you, I would not (with the limited time) use it to these consumer products like MCU.

But again, I don't regret going through them, because then I wouldn't find myself loving the more artistic and cinematic side of movies as much.


Thanks for the warnings Domme Smile

Re: 6.9 for Dr Strange from Scaruffi ... It's helpful to know that, unless the film is hyperlinked, it is very unlikely to be an official rating from Scaruffi himself. If not hyperlinked it is almost certainly just an average rating derived from Scaruffi's favorite critics. Occasionally he will forget to hyperlink one that he has reviewed himself, and I think by and large, those are the only non-hyperlinked ones we can be sure he has seen and still take the rating as his own.

Doesn't mean he might not end up giving that rating to Dr Strange -- just that it's almost certainly not his yet until you see it hyperlinked (from the year or decade page to the artist bio review page) or at least reviewed and rated by him on the artist bio page if not also hyperlinked.
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The same guy who remixed TMR has been remixing the first two TVU albums, what do you think?
I'm abivalent about the remixed TVU&N, the proper stereo panning is nice and all but much of the alienating feeling seems lost or greatly diminished. WL/WH remixed is more consistently enjoyable for me, Sister Ray in particular loses a bit of the density of the original, but has more room for the chaos to spread so to speak.
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Holy shit Mark Stewart died
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The same guy who remixed TMR has been remixing the first two TVU albums, what do you think?
I'm abivalent about the remixed TVU&N, the proper stereo panning is nice and all but much of the alienating feeling seems lost or greatly diminished. WL/WH remixed is more consistently enjoyable for me, Sister Ray in particular loses a bit of the density of the original, but has more room for the chaos to spread so to speak.


Thanks HK! I'll try and get around to checking it out soon. I wouldn't generally advise messing with these really innovative, "raw" masterpieces too much (such as TMR, VU and Nico, WL/WH, or the likes of Twin Infinitives, etc) because their hyper-realism was part of their emotional immediacy. And (especially with the VU and Royal Trux, for example) the tension between their weak or lo-fi recording technologies and what the artists' intensity or peculiar, unique expressivity of their instrumentation, is part of that (for instance, part of why Sister Ray is so hard to re-create or top is because of the extreme tension between the artists playing and what their instruments and amps can handle; the incredible, spontaneous, immediate, relentless tension in the very sound of the instruments practically falling apart (against their limits, against the "claustrophobia" of the "walls" of their own sound world) as they play on -- such as the organ practically splitting apart -- yet they manage to keep it together (barely) in that take ... this alone is very hard to repeat and its emotional immediacy can be lost with "more" amplification, "better" technology, that can serve to lessen the exact balance (the particular "tension") between the playing and the limitations of its sound, capabilities). Yes I agree with you, in that the sense of claustrophobia, alienation from the VU albums especially, part of their sense of (sociological, generational, individual) anxiety, and post-modernism, the collision of "Art" and "(hyper) reality" (more or less "spontaneously", as "performance art", especially the first album in that regard), can be hindered by "updating" the sound quality even just a little too much beyond (more polished than, etc) what it truly was or supposed to be in that moment in time that was (almost miraculously) captured just right, in its very essence, in its primal immediacy, perhaps most perfect match between "Art" and "hyper-realism".
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