Say Demesne (track)
by Johnny Marr
Year: 2013
From the album The Messenger (track #8)
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Say Demesne appears on the following album(s) by Johnny Marr:
- The Messenger (track #8) (this album) (2013)
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| Rating | Date updated | Member | Track ratings | Avg. track rating |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| ! | 06/04/2026 05:01 |  nitomano | 27,532 | 73/100 |
| ! | 09/15/2025 17:10 |  an-outlaw | 2,149 | 77/100 |
| ! | 06/03/2024 02:19 |  imacgill | 34,031 | 81/100 |
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This track has a Bayesian average rating of 74.3/100, a mean average of 73.1/100, and a trimmed mean (excluding outliers) of 73.1/100. The standard deviation for this track is 6.9.
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