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  • Posted: 09/15/2015 04:55
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permafrost wrote:

for the record, dialects aren't just "ways people over there talk" or "non-standard forms." there is no actual definable standard English that any linguist can point you to, though it's a useful rhetorical category in some situations, and putting grammar of "educated middle class people" in relief to Jamaican English or AAVE can sometimes obscure the fact that the gist of that line of argumentation is that there isn't a universally correct grammar. it's pure arrogance to think otherwise.


I know man, I'd never deign to say there is a universally standard English, and the distinction for what is considered "standard" comes from a position of either privilege or simple myopia on the part of those considering it standard. Just we all speak the same form of English, and we can understand our rules, so we might as well follow them.
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  • Posted: 09/15/2015 05:21
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sp4cetiger wrote:
I don't think I've heard any of those three terms...


Pascetti = child's pronunciation of spaghetti. Its seems to be a pretty universal and timeless habit, so it could be argued that it's more deserving of a dictionary definition than irregardless.

In terms of working from a model, I recognize that the idea of a universal system of grammar is a myth, but myth is a powerful force in my life. The forces of order and chaos rage within me; neither can exist without the other.
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  • Posted: 09/15/2015 05:24
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SquishypuffDave wrote:
Pascetti = child's pronunciation of spaghetti.


Huh. The one I usually hear is more like, "busketti".
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  • Posted: 09/15/2015 05:34
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sp4cetiger wrote:
Huh. The one I usually hear is more like, "busketti".


Well sure, if you want to use the Latin.
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