Actually, I think this album could be even bigger than TPAB. The way Grimes has been sharing her ultra-poptimist music taste over the past few years has felt revolutionary to me, and this could be an album that proves that even a nu-metal revival track can be beautiful.
These albums have nothing to do with one another, and you're once again just equating poptimism with quality. These are the kinds of statements that make me feel like you and other poptimists somewhat infantilize pop music in your supposed exaltation of it. You just want something to "be pop" and then you'll retroactively charge it up with some socio-political commentary to justify you just liking pop music. Where does the actual music end up in all of this? I understand that you have a political mission (and a somewhat agreeable one at that, don't get me wrong) in calling pop music serious art, but a vernacular for doing serious pop music criticism can't just eschew all other forms of criticism to mark things as in or out. It should be able to parse pop albums still.
I don't like the new Grimes, she's lost her identity and this song is generic pop. It's not bad at all, but not what I want her to make.
This is an understandable statement. I'm trying to get used to the new song, and while I don't think it's bad, I don't equate it with Grimes. I don't expect her to be releasing standard pop songs with those "oooaaaa" kinda chants.
I'm hoping I can get used to it... but I really do think she's having a bit of an artist identity crisis. I remember reading a while back that she hated most of 'Visions', particularly 'Oblivion', which I found a bit odd. Then she said she hated Realiti, which is a brilliant track. Soooo... I don't really know what path she's going down right now.
I'm just hoping I like the album. _________________ Doubles & Conch
I'm hoping I can get used to it... but I really do think she's having a bit of an artist identity crisis. I remember reading a while back that she hated most of 'Visions', particularly 'Oblivion', which I found a bit odd. Then she said she hated Realiti, which is a brilliant track.
She clarified on social media that her words were being sensationalized and that she stated her dislike of "Oblivion" more in the context of having to perform it all the time because of fan demand. She was then speculating that "Realiti" might become a similar case, I believe. Not as sure on that one. It's making it onto the new album, so she can't have disliked it too much. It's also important to note that "Oblivion" is a song about her rape, so I'm sure it's doubly difficult to release something so vulnerable and then have to perform it with a bunch of energy at every single concert and festival you're invited to perform.
I'm not feeling the new song, but there was a rehearsal thing she posted a snippet of on instagram that sounded all aggressive and loud, so I feel like this album might be sorta all over the place? should be interesting..
You're right, I think she said on her tumblr or twitter or somewhere that every song on the album is gonna kind of have a different style.
Anyways, I really like the new song. Especially the first like 40 seconds are ecstatic, it doesn't quite keep up steam the whole time unfortunately. Let's say the initial thrill starts to wane as it goes on. I don't think it is fair to say she is having an artist identity crisis. I think maybe it would be more fair to say she is amalgamating all the styles and aesthetics she enjoys which might come out as a hot mess.
And I like Realiti but I'm glad she isn't going that direction. I think it has less personality than this does, even if it is really listenable and nice. Not in the top ten of her songs, imo, and I enjoy it, but I think if she went that direction completely she'd become boring, which Grimes certainly is not.
These albums have nothing to do with one another, and you're once again just equating poptimism with quality. These are the kinds of statements that make me feel like you and other poptimists somewhat infantilize pop music in your supposed exaltation of it. You just want something to "be pop" and then you'll retroactively charge it up with some socio-political commentary to justify you just liking pop music. Where does the actual music end up in all of this? I understand that you have a political mission (and a somewhat agreeable one at that, don't get me wrong) in calling pop music serious art, but a vernacular for doing serious pop music criticism can't just eschew all other forms of criticism to mark things as in or out. It should be able to parse pop albums still.
Fair, fair (though I think your argument is more connected to my forgiving nature in art than me liking something "just because it's pop"). I really just want to hear an album with no-metal revival songs and diss tracks (seeing any album with both "art pop" and "nu metal" genre tags on RYM would probably give me an ear boner). I have never been sold on an upcoming album like I was by that Fader piece. She just made it sound like a beautiful crazy mess, and you know how I love those.
(Also, I absolutely loved that new single)
New release on meandyou., which is a label set up by Kassem Mosse. It's a live recording of Mosse's first ever UK set, from back in 2009 at a Workshop Records night in Manchester. It is, obviously, fantastic. And highly recommended. It's called Live at Bookbinders 10.04.2009, and you should listen to it.
Also, I've not been massively impressed with Hubro's releases this year, which is a shame given that they seemed to be putting out fantastic albums on what seemed like a weekly basis last year. However, in recent weeks they've put out two which are wonderful, and will be gracing the top half of my year chart when the next update happens. They are:
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Ivar Grydeland - Stop Freeze Wait Eat
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The Island Band - Like Swimming
Should appeal to Moondog fans. _________________ 2021 in full effect. Come drop me some recs. Y'all know what I like.
I am actually epically, deliciously moist in anticipation for the new Grimes, it's either going to be one of the worst albums I've ever heard or going to open a new space-time continium into another timeline of cotton-candy fortresses and gravity-free transport... anything in between will be a letdown. There's something rather unnerving about the whole trajectory her recent music has fallen into.
Anyways Im really behind on 2015 so if anything that's come out in the past couple of months that is an absolute must-hear then drop a rec below, been liking the new Laura Cannell and Kurt Vile but haven't heard much else
Anyways Im really behind on 2015 so if anything that's come out in the past couple of months that is an absolute must-hear then drop a rec below, been liking the new Laura Cannell and Kurt Vile but haven't heard much else
Yeah, that Laura Cannell record is really interesting. Not sure I love it, but it's certainly got a sort of muscular beauty about it.
Anyway, in terms of things I've really loved in recent months, it's these:
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Sean Nicholas Savage - Other Death
Bedroom hipster drinks cheap white wine and listens to nothing but early Sade and late-'80s Fleetwood Mac. (I promise it's better than that description makes it sound.)
Lots of vaguely preachy New World shouting, lots of drumming, very Sun Ra-esque, occasional nods to Latin music. It's a messy sprawl of a record, but it works. The best jazz album I've heard all year.
Harsh, industrial beats at a grime tempo. Not actually as headache-inducing as that description makes out, the record actually makes great use of space and silence. Definitely an angry record - pissed-off-at-the-world electronic music, in the same vein as Jlin's Dark Energy from earlier this year, only better and less teenager-with-a-badge.
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Car Seat Headrest - Teens of Style
Dude sounds like Julian Casablancas, and he makes funny, emotionally direct indie music that sounds like The Walkmen at their best, all the time. It's really, really good.
Overlapping, almost minimalist motifs, surprisingly catchy though. She plays African bows, which sound like the most beautiful scraping steel you've ever heard, and then other people around her do lovely things with horns and stuff. Sounds like a tin pan orchestra. Really nice.
Those are basically the albums which I've been playing lots and lots and lots recently. _________________ 2021 in full effect. Come drop me some recs. Y'all know what I like.
I am actually epically, deliciously moist in anticipation for the new Grimes, it's either going to be one of the worst albums I've ever heard or going to open a new space-time continium into another timeline of cotton-candy fortresses and gravity-free transport... anything in between will be a letdown. There's something rather unnerving about the whole trajectory her recent music has fallen into.
Anyways Im really behind on 2015 so if anything that's come out in the past couple of months that is an absolute must-hear then drop a rec below, been liking the new Laura Cannell and Kurt Vile but haven't heard much else
i feel like you'd dig the new selena gomez, and maybe the demi lovato
oh, and westkust too
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Seriously one of the best death metal records of the year, very Entombed-like. This album just fucking rips man, it's awesome. _________________ Progressive Rock
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