Help Wanted: Data Moderation

Romanelli · 2017-05-13T17:33:33-04:00

A 107 track album entered into the BEA database (by a long time regular site member who long ago qualified as a data moderator) a full two months before it was even released (meaning it was most likely entered without even being listened to) and left for those two months for others to do all the work on at a time when we regularly have right around a 150 album backlog of data moderation to do is something that those who are doing the bulk of the data mod work can find to be deflating. I know that data moderation is time consuming, and that there isn't a lot of incentive for doing it after you reach a certain number of points...but we really should all be sharing in the work to help keep this site up and running smoothly and up to date. A lot of the albums entered are by new users, but we should at least be doing our part by helping out with the work on the albums we enter ourselves. It takes less than a minute to add an album to your chart...it takes less than 5 to add the info for a normal sized album for an experienced user. And helping with the overall backlog isn't a bad thing, either...consider it a way to give back to a site that you get to come to and enjoy for free. If you think that BEA isn't growing...you need only to look at the pending moderation to see otherwise. Not only are there still a lot of older albums that are being added daily, it sometimes seems as if there is a push to enter every new album that comes out as well. In years past, it was easier to keep up on the work...but now, we're almost always weeks behind. As of today, just the albums that are waiting for track listings to be added stands at 143. 56 albums have no artwork. 70 are missing release years and cannot be added to year or decade charts. And 171 artists are pending their countries of origin. Not to mention that there are still almost 8000 albums released from 2004 and later that are in need of full release dates. Work on these has almost completely stopped because we are struggling to stay on top of the newly entered albums. Just a little help will go a long way. Thanks!

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PurpleHazel wrote:

I do think either AllMusic or Wikipedia sometimes copies the other. Wikipedia's user-generated of course and AllMusic is at least some of the time.[

Very possible they might sometimes copy each other. AllMusic is professionally curated. Wikipedia often provides cross-references at the bottom of each article (so if in doubt, definitely best to check which source [if any] has been used).

mozzmozz ... five years, that's all we've got Profile
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I'm not certain if this should be in a different thread but this one might be just as appropriate...

It relates to Capitalisation policy.

I've just moderated the EP for this artist (Adding the Release date)
kučka
Because the tracks were all in lowercase, I Capitalised them.

However, I did not Capitalise the Album Title, because it is clearly "stylised" in lower case. (Like the Artist), and would be more "accurate" left as lowercase.

But BEA Policy is to Capitalise Album Titles.https://www.besteveralbums.com/admin_album_help.php

Should these Policy Notes be altered to take these "stylisations" into account?

Mozz
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mozzmozz wrote:

In this case, IMHO the album title should just be Kučka (the case is not generally taken into account for album titles). The fact that the artist is listed in lower case doesn't affect how the album title is listed.

(The band list their name as mixed case on Facebook & all caps on Twitter, so there is a bit of inconsistency over how the artist styles their own name, but that's an aside and doesn't really affect things).

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I added a bunch of albums yesterday, and returned to them today to add images and track lists etc. thank you to whoever got there before me, especially for the 139 tracks on Bruce Cockburn's "Rumours of Glory".

They were all added for a list compiling albums produced by T-Bone Burnett.

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rkm wrote:

especially for the 139 tracks on Bruce Cockburn's "Rumours of Glory".

You have zdwyatt to thank for that.
I would imagine he would have had to put his fingers in a bucket of iced water after that. 🤣
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Everytime I'm adding a new album, I can't add month and day of release. Is that normal?

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brunotp wrote:

Everytime I'm adding a new album, I can't add month and day of release. Is that normal?

If the album was released before 2004, yes. The ability to add the month and day is only available for albums that came out since 2004.

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BEA started collecting release dates in 2014 (some way into the site's existence), so we are still back populating existing albums. Once these are done, the scope could be widened a bit further, but at the moment there's still around 6,000 albums left to do.

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I do add track lists etc. when I add anew album. The one thing which I've never been able to manage is artwork. I've tried but failed dismally. can anyone help? I'd love to add artwork when I add an album. Cheers guys.

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Johnnyo wrote:

The one thing which I've never been able to manage is artwork. I've tried but failed dismally. can anyone help? I'd love to add artwork when I add an album. Cheers guys.

Hi Johnnyo.
It's a two stage process:
First, click on the "Google Images" link - just below the blank images area - which will open up a new window, with some sample pictures.
Choose a quality picture from the list. I always go for at least 500 x 500 so that the picture appears crisp when displayed in BEA.
Right click and "Open image in new tab" (sometimes this will enlarge it to get a bigger image).
Then right click and "Save image as..." a file on your workstation/laptop.

Secondly, go back to the album admin page and click on the "Choose File" button to upload the picture you just saved on your machine. It should show the file name just to the right of the button.

Hope this helps. 😄
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