BEA 2017 Championship Tournament

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Poll: Would you participate?
Yes
85%
 85%  [18]
No
14%
 14%  [3]
Total Votes : 21

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baystateoftheart
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  • #141
  • Posted: 10/17/2018 19:48
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craola wrote:
Susanne Sundfor getting booted is my biggest letdown but having nominated Perfume Genius, that's a close second. Do you think their sexuality had anything to do with them getting dropped so early? I would hope that's pretty irrelevant to the voters.


I wasn't suggesting that people voted against them because of their identity. But the fact that sexuality is more overt in their music and performances than some other artists clearly turned some people off, if you recall the Arca first round thread.

craola wrote:
That would kind of defeat the purpose of the tournament, right? I'm not terribly excited about anything that's left, but I'll keep on participating nonetheless. We've all got our own year charts for our opinions on how this tourney should've gone.


Many of the nominees are not in Skinny's chart, and lots of people including him have nominated albums that aren't highest on their charts, hence my question to him.
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  • Posted: 10/17/2018 19:57
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Take my chart with a pinch of salt. Hasn't been updated since July '17. If you shoot me the list of nominees, I'll highlight my faves.
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  • #143
  • Posted: 10/17/2018 20:03
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baystateoftheart wrote:
I wasn't suggesting that people voted against them because of their identity. But the fact that sexuality is more overt in their music and performances than some other artists clearly turned some people off, if you recall the Arca first round thread. Many of the nominees are not in Skinny's chart, and lots of people including him have nominated albums that aren't highest on their charts, hence my question to him.

I suppose that's fair (on both points). Two of my top five albums made the tourney (as mentioned earlier), so my vote is pretty obvious in that regard. How would it played it out for you given the nominations?
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  • #144
  • Posted: 10/17/2018 20:17
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Nah I don't care about sexuality at all. I didn't even know that about Susanne Sundfor.

I said that about the Arca videos because I think that nudity to represent vulnerability in art is overplayed, dumb, and pretentious.
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baystateoftheart
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  • #145
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Skinny wrote:
Take my chart with a pinch of salt. Hasn't been updated since July '17. If you shoot me the list of nominees, I'll highlight my faves.


Here's the spreadsheet with the list of nominees and all the results so far: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/...4Qu4lCCIU/

craola wrote:
How would it played it out for you given the nominations?


I put that in another sheet in the linked spreadsheet. If anyone wants me to add how they'd do the bracket to the spreadsheet, I can input it manually or let you edit a sheet (PM).
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  • #146
  • Posted: 10/17/2018 20:21
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Tha1ChiefRocka wrote:
Nah I don't care about sexuality at all. I didn't even know that about Susanne Sundfor.

I said that about the Arca videos because I think that nudity to represent vulnerability in art is overplayed, dumb, and pretentious.


Oh ok that helps me understand your opinion on Arca. And I don't think craola was saying she's LGBT.
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  • Posted: 10/18/2018 01:22
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PSA: The elite eight round will conclude tomorrow, October 18 at 11:59 PM Eastern Time. Be sure to get your votes in by then!
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  • Posted: 10/25/2018 16:53
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I highly suggest adding your new discoveries to your charts before the tournament concludes. Gold, silver, and bronze medals will be awarded for the largest increases in BEA chart position.
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  • Posted: 10/26/2018 16:59
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Voting for the final four round closes at 11:59 PM Eastern Time tonight. Get those votes in!
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  • #150
  • Posted: 10/31/2018 21:14
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https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/v...460#531460
baystateoftheart wrote:
musicoed wrote:
My humble wishes:
1. Start summarizing the 2018 tomorrow today - until 12/31/2018.
2. In three classic nominations: 1) Music videos; 2) Tracks; 3) Albums.
3. Refuse to vote without a face.
4. Use only personal rating lists.
5. Give the opportunity to declare no more than one release in the nomination.
6. Give the opportunity to change their applications and ratings.
7. Sum up the interim results at least every week.
8. Give the opportunity to vote against the non-liked releases.
9. Encourage first places at intermediate results.
10. Do not judge me strictly for my ignorance of language and arrogance.))


1. Sorry, no. People need time to review the year before the tournament.
2. I'm not sure if there's appetite for three different tournaments. And this is Best Ever Albums after all.
3. ?
4. ?
5. That's already how it worked this year.
6. I don't see how it would be workable for people to change their nominees once voting has begun.
7. This entire tournament I've been summing them up every day or every other day in the spreadsheet that's linked in every matchup. And you can see the results on every thread yourself if that's not enough.
8. You can already do this by voting for their opponents.
9. ?
10. No judgment on your language, but I make no promises on your other request.



baystateoftheart wrote:
musicoed wrote:
You understood me wrong.
I have no complaints.
On the contrary!
I am very pleased that there are music lovers like you.
You did a great job.
I myself used electronic voting.
But this is a rather crude method.
It is justified for a large number of participants.
For 20 participants can be counted manually.
I would take it myself, but no one will support me, I'm afraid.


Thanks. Electronic voting is built into BEA, and I have faith that we can use the honor system and people will not manipulate the results. If that faith proves misplaced, obviously we will need to find another solution. To be clear, voting in the poll and then commenting did not count twice. The poll was the only way to vote.



Better to show than to try to explain in an unknown language to me. Embarassed
Here is a variant of my ranking list for determining the top 10 albums of 2017.
It includes albums from the general list + my application (underlined).
If other participants also make such ratings, they can be combined.

1. «+10» Perfume Genius – No Shape (craola)
2. «+09» Flotation Toy Warning – The Machine That Made Us (musicoed)
3. «+08» Susanne Sundfør – Music For People In Trouble (RockyRaccoon)
4. «+07» Sufjan Stevens / Nico Muhly / Bryce Dessner / James McAlister – Planetarium (Mercury)
5. «+06» Ariel Pink – Dedicated To Bobby Jameson (Norman Bates)
6. «+05» The National – Sleep Well Beast (Komorebi-D)
7. «+04» Circuit Des Yeux – Reaching For Indigo (meccalecca)
8. «+03» Wolf Alice – Visions Of A Life (StreetSpirit)
9. «+02» The Dream Syndicate – How Did I Find Myself Here? (dihansse)
10. «+01» Neil Cicierega – Mouth Moods (Rhyner)
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11. «-01» King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard – Flying Microtonal Banana (glynspa)
12. «-02» Jesca Hoop – Memories Are Now (Gowi)
13. «-03» Phoebe Bridgers – Stranger In The Alps (babyBlueSedan)
14. «-04» Alvvays – Antisocialites (baystateoftheart)
15. «-05» Open Mike Eagle – Brick Body Kids Still Daydream (benpaco)

P.S. negative scores are assigned not to bad, but to overvalued albums.
No offense.
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