Projection goes deeper than just trying to hide your feelings.
I never said that it didn't. My arguments are not based around just people hiding their feelings. I don't believe higherthanthesun said this either.
Necharsian wrote:
The way you act around your drug dealer is different than how you act around your mother. Both are projections. Both are a part of you. It's the same with social media. Sure people pick and choose what they post, but it's the same as picking which words to say when telling a story to a group of friends.
Once again, I never denied that people choose masks and images in real life. The point is it is easier and more obviously done via social media, or any internet forum for reasons I already outlined and described, which you have not refuted. You can online be totally conscious of and plan large portions of what you say. And since it has not been countered in any way I repeat from my last post:
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it is a lot easier to dissect someone in real life (tone of voice, body language, general demeanour ect.). Unless you are a fantastic actor or psychopath, your not going to be constantly conscious of everything you are doing to maintain a mask.
Not only that, but the very act of say, designing a profile on facebook, encourages creating an image. Not that real life things don't do that, but via the internet it will as already stated easier to make that mask and harder for other people to see through. If you choose to, it is far easier to create such an image through social media than it is without.
And lastly you have not given any attention to Higherthanthesun's posts about people living their lives through facebook. I don't believe your going to deny no one does this.
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If its coming straight from a person (aka a celeb on twitter, or gossip straight from your best friends mouth) you are getting to know that person in some small aspect. Whether its a projection or not.
I'm not arguing following someone on twitter is a stronger connection than knowing them in person (because it isn't). But it is a connection nonetheless.
Also, "stupid and hilarious" was what I personally like, not an overall thesis of what social media should be about.
Ok, good to know you don't think it is a deeper connection, I didn't think you did, but you never specified. Their is no obvious way of logically coming to a conclusion about how real what you are reading is. How are you still getting to know that person if it is a projection? That does not follow logically. You may feel you are getting something out of them, but that would be false, believing something when it is a deception does not make it true.
The other problem here is of course, even if it was a true connection or knowledge of some person, what benefit would you gain from said connection? It might be as you said just entertainment, "stupid and hilarious things". But if they are just posting funny shit, I doubt your getting any insight into who they are or their personality. No one is just a comedian all the time.
Still, an argument over the entertainment value of social media is far more likely to be convincing. As I have already discussed, social media generally isn't the best forum for deep thought, you said as much yourself. As I have demonstrated, the "connection" is not likely deep, it is logical to assume it could not actually exist, and even if it did, its benefits are sketchy. But finding entertainment from these things, stupid and hilarious things, I don't doubt is possible, I bet you could show that. It doesn't even contradict my original complaint that people use social media for annoying reasons and purposes.
You have not given any attention to the idea that these things will become an advertising vehicle. Which is more than logical, because companies/whatever are always trying to advertise in ways that people don't believe are adds. It would not be logical for say a musician or actor to put down their latest film or album, they will promote it. Adds are not interesting.
You have also not replied to the question of why we need millions of people doing this, posting that stuff ect?
To answer your question: We don't need it. We don't need social media to function. But we don't need cars or computers or phones either.
My point is, that we project images onto other people all the time. Every interaction with a person, we are putting on some sort of behavioral shift to counteract situations. Sure this happens on social media. We want to look cool on the internet for others to see. But we do it in person wayyy more. The way we dress, speak, the things we do. In essence it's all an act. There's nothing wrong with it; all of these projections make up who we are.
Any interaction with any one in any way is a connection. If someone is being completely fake to your face, it's a connection. If you are talking on facebook with someone, connection.
Personal contact IS a better means of connecting, but social media is a decent substitute.
I try and limit myself to like 1-2 pictures and like 1-2 tweets but i usually dont even do that because i go hard at concerts. I like having a little social networking. you know everything is good in moderation.
Necharsian wrote:
If its coming straight from a person (aka a celeb on twitter, or gossip straight from your best friends mouth) you are getting to know that person in some small aspect. Whether its a projection or not.
Someone getting to know me through my tweets is fuckin horrifying as he*k _________________ Alt Right meme game on point
I FEEL DISCRIMINATED AGAINST AS A PERSON OF JUDGEMENT.
Twitter is for followers. And that's all I will ever care to say about it.
As far as shows, I don't care if people post things and record videos and take pictures. At least they aren't yelling at their friends over the music for the entire show. There's nothing more irritating than people at a show trying to talk over the band. Go to a bar. Go stand outside. In traffic, preferably. _________________ I'm leaning on the threshold
Of her mystery
And crashing through the walls
Of dying history
Seems that this thread became about social media in general, but I didn't really read it all. But to answer the question, I usually take a picture or two, and maybe a 30 second video on my phone. But it's simply to have on my phone and keep as a memory of the show. I've never posted pictures/videos on facebook or anything like that.
And I absolutely hate it when you're stuck behind someone that is constantly on their phone during a concert, especially when they are holding it up high above the crowd taking a video, when it's directly blocking your view of the band. I mean I love going on youtube and seeing live footage of my favorite bands, but 9 times out of 10 I watch the relatively professional videos as opposed to camera phone videos that are typically poor quality both in sound and video.
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