[Mr. Shankly]

[Mr. Shankly]

[purple]

(1) just be glad I voted for your team, based largely on that single... I'm beginning to regret it.

(2) I've independently believed it was a chauvinistic song since I first heard it, and simply used others points-of-view to back mine up; this doesn't mean it still isn't a great single. It also doesn't mean that my interpretation is the only one; the great thing about art is that almost any interpretation is valid, but you should know that you're in the minority.

(3) I see where you're going with the Huckleberry Finn analogy, and the difference is this: Mark Twain was a vocal comedian of racism, and explicitly stated elsewhere that it did no good; James Brown is a known chauvinist, through his other songs and his relations (look at his marriage record: he was married four times, one of which was on-going through at least two of his other marriages, yet he was discomforted by the fact that his fourth wife married him without a proper annulment for her first husband). I don't believe any art should be banned, but I'm saying that when James Brown sings "the world ain't nothin without a woman", I think he only cares about coming back to that ass after a hard day's work. I mean, look at the rest of his work, it's almost ALL sex.

(4) I indirectly pointed out in my previous post that the song may or may not have been written by a woman; it doesn't matter, it's still chauvinistic. For modern analogies, look at Twilight or 50 Shades of Grey for chauvinism written by women; gender doesn't matter, content and reputation of the author do.

(5) whatever "Attack" you perceive was not personal whatsoever, but my argument was against your asinine argument for the single as a "feminist anthem." I will say, though, that the more I learn of your shit on BEA, the less I respect you. Good day, sir.

[Jackwc]

LOL, JAMES BROWN, FEMINIST ICON.

Also, if we're gonna talk feminist anthems, I submit the entire discography of Ani DiFranco. Not A Pretty Woman is a feminist anthem of an album if ever there were one.
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[Saoirse]

Im sorry, but saying "It's a Man's world" is in anyway feminiist is almost as bad as calling "I Kissed a Girl" feminist (or pro-GLBT). There are different ways in which that classification is totally false and maybe the comparison is a bit extreme ("I Kissed a Girl" is just a tawdry and juvenile wannabe sex-tease), but it's one of the worse ways to try and praise that song. "It's a Man's world" is looking at women through a man's eyes and ultimately suggesting that their needed to "complete" the man's world and deserve praise from, yep, Men. Even though you can argue about all the nuances and sub-meanings, ultimately it is a song that suggests women are there to complete Men... and even if the song is meant as female "praise" it only argues that through how they act towards Men... it doesn't have any female voice or look outside it's own deeply-rooted masculinity to try and achieve a truly balanced view of how women and men act towards each other in this world. From a purely Musical perspective it's a great song, but what it actually tries to say is in no way a forward-thinking stance on gender relations...

[Wombi]

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[Mr. Shankly]

[Mr. Shankly]

👏 Thanks to my co-captain, Joy of Division and thanks to the BEA voters and albummaster for this great match. Looking forward to round two. 😁

[joyofdivision]

Didn't realise there was such a large Milli Vanilli/Proclaimers fanbase on the site, well done to team '88 for gaining 15 votes from such a brave selection 👏

[albummaster]

Surprised how close it was, but the best team definitely won!