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- #21
- Posted: 06/01/2013 07:02
- Post subject: Re: Force? Assertion?
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Norman Bates wrote: | In a way, it's exactly what an_outlaw means, or so I understand it. Given the right incentive and/or particular situation, you'll like things you wouldn't have otherwise. |
Oh, well in that case, I guess this thread does apply to me.
Doesn't everyone love all music when they're drunk, though?
EDIT: Oh, I just saw your edit. Yeah, in all seriousness, though, I guess there is probably music I wouldn't even enjoy drunk (though I legitimately can't come up with anything off the top of my head). For me personally, though, I sort of feel like being drunk just makes me forget all standards of comparison, and I sort of just enjoy everything equally. That may just be me, though.
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- #22
- Posted: 06/01/2013 07:48
- Post subject: Re: Force? Assertion?
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an_outlaw wrote: | Do you think it is possible to force yourself to like an album? By force yourself I don't mean pretend to like it. I'm not talking of such things at all. Perhaps assert an album onto yourself may be a much better term?
Stuff like listening to an album on repeat for much of the day, clearing your mind before going in, thinking of reasons to like it etc.
As long as the enjoyment is genuine, I believe it can be done in some cases. There is hardly any music out there which can be called "unlikeable". What are peoples thoughts on what I have to say? |
Personally, while some artists I disliked some years ago have suddenly clicked on me (Rogers Nelson most notably), I've never forced myself to like something no matter how acclaimed it is among a community of music listeners, whether that is professional critics, people I know or BEA. Still I'm open to revaluation but it's not necessarily my target when I'm revisiting something.
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- #23
- Posted: 06/02/2013 18:40
- Post subject: Re: Force? Assertion?
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useless wrote: | Personally, while some artists I disliked some years ago have suddenly clicked on me (Rogers Nelson most notably), I've never forced myself to like something no matter how acclaimed it is among a community of music listeners, whether that is professional critics, people I know or BEA. Still I'm open to revaluation but it's not necessarily my target when I'm revisiting something. |
It is best to do it for your own sake than for "professional critics". Don't take me up that though, I'm hardly knoweldgable on what they are promoting most the time. While you may decide you dislike something, with many more listens it may come through. The first listen may be... dirtied by other factors.
I might be repeating what has been said countless times. Best ending to what I have to say would be to evaulate how clear you are going into an album. Be aware of the thoughts beforehand.
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Cymro2011
The Beatles were objectively average
Gender: Male
Age: 29
Location: In a deep, dark bubblegum graveyard 
- #24
- Posted: 06/02/2013 18:46
- Post subject: Re: Force? Assertion?
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an_outlaw wrote: |
As long as the enjoyment is genuine, I believe it can be done in some cases. There is hardly any music out there which can be called "unlikeable". |
uh no. There's a lot of music out there that is genuinely unlikable. Have you had a look at Iluvpornmusic's chart at all?
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- #25
- Posted: 06/02/2013 18:57
- Post subject: Re: Force? Assertion?
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Cymro2011 wrote: | uh no. There's a lot of music out there that is genuinely unlikable. Have you had a look at Iluvpornmusic's chart at all? |
Did you have listen to such albums with the gusto you would listen to the critically acclaimed ones? Were they listened with a sneer or grin and less than low hopes? It would do good to throw away the notions of "unlistenable" music.
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Cymro2011
The Beatles were objectively average
Gender: Male
Age: 29
Location: In a deep, dark bubblegum graveyard 
- #26
- Posted: 06/02/2013 18:59
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an_outlaw wrote: | Did you have listen to such albums with the gusto you would listen to the critically acclaimed ones? Were they listened with a sneer or grin and less than low hopes? It would do good to throw away the notions of "unlistenable" music. |
I try my best to listen to everything with an open mind but sometimes its hard to take some albums seriously.
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- #27
- Posted: 06/02/2013 19:08
- Post subject: Re: Force? Assertion?
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Cymro2011 wrote: | I try my best to listen to everything with an open mind but sometimes its hard to take some albums seriously. |
That is valid. You can't flick a switch and go into something with completely zero intruding thoughts. The topic to begin with seemed to be about encouraging people to go into an album with more posistive thoughts. Raised the question of whether you could get a favorite by drilling it into you. Repeated listens. Removing what notions were possible to remove. Perhaps... even deciding on liking something beforehand! The last one is a little out there though. I'm not confident with the idea.
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- #28
- Posted: 06/02/2013 19:20
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I think you can in fact 'force' yourself to like music,but not in a sense of hearing it so often you like it,but getting a better understanding of it and appreciating it more with your new found understanding,through forcing yourself to listen to it.That's probably not what you were getting at in the op,outlaw,however it's the only way I believe you can 'force' yourself to like music.
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- #29
- Posted: 06/03/2013 06:59
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Ive never really tried to force myself to like any music, dont see much of a point to doing that really. There is more than enough music out there that I simply enjoy without willing myself into it to occupy my music listening time that I dont really see much appeal to grinding out listens.
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