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  • Posted: 02/27/2018 00:59
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in my book, this Lo Moon gets away with it because there's obviously a sphere of influence they're drawing on. they're not trying to be someone else. i can hear talk talk, prefab, peter gabriel, blue nile and even coldplay/doves in their music. also, thank you for the rec. i quite liked it my first play through.
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PurpleHazel wrote:
sethmadsen wrote:
It's funny we bring up Led Zeppelin. It was more common back then to play "the standards". Beatles were a cover band - and Led Zeppelin did the same. Sure they had a style, but they too "ripped" off the works of earlier artists.

I'm just stating a fact that these great bands we all love for their creativity were often playing covers in the beginning. Sure they made it their own version, etc.

So in other words, is it fair to say these artists are any less... so long as they go on and do great things of their own?

I feel the White Stripes is a great example of taking something that was already a thing and expounding upon it and making something pretty good on their (his) own.

Wolfmother on the other hand - meh. Started out interesting and just lost any steam because they indeed were just regurgitating something already done. No additional energy or whatever.

Playing covers and imitating another artist's sound are two different issues that often overlap a great deal, but can be distinct. Some covers greatly reinterpret, sometimes ironically, the original, like Devo's version of "Satisfaction" or The Talking Heads' "Take Me to The River."

When artists play a cover, they're giving the original songwriter the credit, so if their sound is based on that artist, they're at least acknowledging it somewhat. Zeppelin obviously was completely wrong when they reinterpreted songs and didn't at the very least share credit. The Beatles and Stones did a lot of covers early in their careers, but at least they gave the credit (unfortunate that the Stones made a lot more money from their records than the covered blues artists from theirs) and grew into bands with their own sound and original songwriting.

Every musician learns by copying others when they're starting out (though a majority don't put it on record). But as
sethmadsen said, if you don't grow into your own sound, that's lame (though there are those that still make enjoyable music) and possibly plagiarism, even if it can't be legally proved.


Agreed.
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