But Luigii, that's literally what this album is. It's perhaps the most notoriously unfinished and unreleased album of all time! Mostly recorded in 1966-67, it was shelved and finally got an official release in 2011. Judge it all you want on how great or not the music sounds, but it seems highly unfair to judge it for having an unfinished quality - no one made any pretensions that this was a completed work.
And how is it passé? Your point of comparison for this statement, Karma, is an album recorded two years later in a genre that could scarcely be more different. And while Pharaoh Sanders was virtually unknown among the general public when he recorded Karma, the Beach Boys were one of the biggest bands in the world and signed to a commercially-oriented label when they recorded Smile. There is arguably no more experimental and progressive recording from 1967 within the realm of popular music with commercial expectations. I would argue that The Smile Sessions are much closer to cutting-edge than they are to passé.
Anyway, I'm glad you liked it at least somewhat, and maybe it will grow on you in the future.
Yeah I did enjoy it and some songs where given a second chance with headphones. Because before I finished it, I was thinking to myself that though good was just lacking. And you definitely do point it out in the first paragraph. But when you get in the Top 20 of any year especially this decade, you do have to prove your work. Who knows maybe if it was in the Top 50, I'd would be on the same side. And though I do agree, when your number 3 of 2011, I would feel a bit disappointed.
Now why did I call it a bit passe? Well it is more comes to the construction of the songs as well as nowadays more albums nowadays are dense, detailed, packed with emotion. And while I do believe Beach Boys could hit those qualities and probably did during there time, other genres that didn't exist in the 60's just do so much more for me. Stuff like Dream Pop, Shoegaze, Ambient, IDM and countless others hit me way more on a personal level.
But, when I continue through the 60's I do try to be level headed. Also for Sanders, I use him to how his spiritual jazz is another subgenre that speaks more volumes to me but also as a example of an album that is almost 50 years old and speaks to a guy in his 20's.
Are you saying you judge albums with a higher BEA rank differently? And that this same recording might have gotten a higher rating from you if it weren't as high as it is in the charts? Or am I misunderstanding?
I thought you were saying it was passé when it was recorded. Now I see you mean it feels passé now. I suppose I can understand where you're coming from, even though I disagree. I would argue it is "dense, detailed, packed with emotion" even when evaluated in comparison to today's works. But to each their own.
For the first question. I would say YES. BEA or any list on any music dedicated site would have new listeners or people like me who are trying to form there head cannon of what they feel on the best albums of that time. And sometimes we will agree and not agree.
Now I can see how it does speak to you, but it is more of a to each their own.
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For the first question. I would say YES. BEA or any list on any music dedicated site would have new listeners or people like me who are trying to form there head cannon of what they feel on the best albums of that time. And sometimes we will agree and not agree.
Now I can see how it does speak to you, but it is more of a to each their own.
Totally with you on forming a musical head canon. However, I try to hold albums to the same standard regardless of how acclaimed they are, instead of factoring in whether I think they are underrated or overrated. _________________ Join us in the canon game :) / Add me on RYM
For the first question. I would say YES. BEA or any list on any music dedicated site would have new listeners or people like me who are trying to form there head cannon of what they feel on the best albums of that time. And sometimes we will agree and not agree.
Now I can see how it does speak to you, but it is more of a to each their own.
Totally with you on forming a musical head canon. However, I try to hold albums to the same standard regardless of how acclaimed they are, instead of factoring in whether I think they are underrated or overrated.
And I realistically agree. But at the end of the day, if I am having fun as well as being engaged my grading will be very positive. Hell my average is still an 89/100 even when I have almost 800 albums. So it could have been way worse.
This was a real good fun album. thank you i really enjoyed this. had not heard it before. glad you introduced it to me. better than expected 7.5 or 8 / 10 Excellent record.
Scofield brings out the jazzy and funky strengths of Gov't Mule as opposed to their typical (and less interesting) blues trappings. Besides being a big Deadhead, my Dad's second favorite would probably be Gov't Mule, so I'm fairly familiar with a lot of their music. I went through my own jam band phase from probably age 17 to 20, but I don't find myself listening to albums within that canon often anymore. However, this album is tasteful and well-executed and a pleasant surprise. Thanks for the rec. I would say it's one of the better albums for both John Scofield and Gov't Mule.
This was a pretty solid ambient album with some interesting textures. I played it as background music at work and my boss, who comments on everything I play, was fairly ambivalent. 3.5/5.
Thanks for this rec Baystate. For some reason I missed these guys totally until a few years ago. Since then I've heard a playlist of theirs, wanted to hear more, but didn't really know where to start. This was really good. The sort of album I know I would have listened to a lot of at the time if I had of known of it and had a copy, and would possibly be a favourite now. Great variety within the record but still with a consistent sound at the same time. Loved Spec Bebop, We're An American Band, and Deeper Into Movies. Little Honda is surely a homage/nod to early JAMC? I will have to listen to some more albums of theirs but again with so many where next?
Nice fresh bright joyous album, sounds like a sunny day in so cal A truly fun sounding album that is really enjoyable almost an easy listening in a good way type experience. Thank you this was a really pleasant listen I would absolutely recommend this record.
I loved this album on first listen, and I had only heard it once, so I was happy to revisit it for this game. Gorgeous slowcore that does Massachusetts proud. Musically, it's like if the Great Molasses Flood of 1919 were the sugary, mellow ride through city streets it evokes instead of the lethal menace it was. 4/5.
Was this actually released as an album? I know that I've seen these sets before, but I thought they were just videos on youtube. I'd love to have this one on vinyl, because it might be one of the greatest things ever. Hard to find anyone better than Frankie Knuckles; he was the man.
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