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Romanelli
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- #31
- Posted: 05/04/2020 23:12
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| albumceleste wrote: | At the time of release your country either got one or the other.
My father's vinyl collection from the 60s were UK version because that was what's being issued back in the day. Then when the CD era begun his Stones collection became US versions because that was the one that was arriving.
In the streaming era I don't think any of this matters for most listeners. |
It matters to me...but I don't listen to albums via streaming. I buy my albums.
I believe that the difference was that The Beatles were able to easily make the selection of which set of albums were the official ones when they reissued on CD. They simply chose the UK albums and put the songs not on the UK albums on the Past Masters discs.
The Stones have absolutely no control over their earlier material. So the fate of their early material is in the hands of people who are no longer associated with the Rolling Stones. So my suggestion is that you pick one or the other and make that official to you. British or American. You'll never figure it out trying to mix the two. You live in the US. Go with the US albums, and leave it at that. If there are tracks left off, then that's what compilations are for.
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Spyglass
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- #32
- Posted: 05/05/2020 22:06
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"You live in the US, go with the US albums."
That's exactly what annoys me. It's an easy way out of a complex problem, and that kind of "solution" always bugs me no matter what the situation is. It's no different than wiping dirt under a rug. Forgive me for giing overboard with this, but that kind of action is one of my pet peeves. You can't solve the Stones problem with the Beatles answer; they need to be orhanized in two different ways for a proper solution. I understand it's "accepted" among the populace, but so are a lot of things.
I think those two lists really helped. This way I can get through the albums in question with no fear of repeats like on the American Beatles works. The problem here is that the UK Beatles catalogue had no repeats from overseas, so an official version would be easy. I checked: all the UK Beatles albums had nothing but new songs. Rolling Stones was different; both UK and US catalogues from the Stones had repeats. Both the UK and US catalogues are bound to have at least one album that's no different from a fucked up comp full of songs taken from different albums with their own unique essence.
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- #33
- Posted: 05/06/2020 20:05
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| Spyglass wrote: | | Both the UK and US catalogues are bound to have at least one album that's no different from a fucked up comp full of songs taken from different albums with their own unique essence. |
Because that was the Stones career at the time. That mess in inherent to the way their career was developing.
As everybody already knows when they first toured US they went and scheduled some studio time and recorded in Chicago and LA. Tracks from those sessions appeared here and there and everywhere during those years in albums that seems like compilations to us but were the norm back then. As has already been said in this thread, it's not like they step in the studio thinking "ok guys, this is our new artistic project". They just took breaks to record tracks, and then those were selected -not by them- to appear in singles, eps or full albums. Those decisions were not of artistic nature but of commercial one.
OF course you already know all this, so the only way to make sense/order of that period of their career is to compile the tracks roughly as they were recorded. Or to stick to London or Decca set of releases and call it done. Or to own both sets and completely forget on what album were Poison Ivy or Fortune Teller or... 😁
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Spyglass
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- #34
- Posted: 05/06/2020 21:06
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As I've been trying to state before, can we avoid "pick UK or US" or "pick London or Decca?" I don't think most people here are really grasping what I'm trying to say. I suppose it's my own fault because I wasn't sure of it either, and the current thread title must not have helped. Now I'm guilty of my own problem of confusion in an effort to subdue it with an answer to the original problem. I might have to just change the statement in the OP (and maybe the title) and go on. I think I'll change the thread to an early Rolling Stones discussion thread.
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