Positives first. The beats knock, the rapping is skillful, and the energy level is high. I enjoy the parts on here that are conscious/political as well as the parts that are pure gangsta rap. Now for the negatives. The bulk of this album is horrorcore. It's not the eerie Gravediggaz brand of horrorcore either. It's full-on dead-eyed depravity with plentiful gore. And not only do the Geto Boys rap about brutally killing street rivals, but also many innocent bystanders. There's also lots of rape and domestic violence, and even apart from that, the misogyny throughout the album is really over the top. This sort of lyricism holds less than zero appeal to me, and honestly disgusts me. I wouldn't like watching a gory horror movie, and I don't enjoy listening to graphic descriptions of gore from the perspective of serial killers either. Worse than the Blowfly album. 1/5.
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Loving the energy on this! It's very punk! Reminds me of NWA.
MercuryTurn your back on the pay-you-back last callProfile St. Louis
Okay, started this last night and almost gave up midway through first song. But pushed a bit further and listened to first 4 tracks. Then just now I finished the album at last! Last night, not gonna lie, it was a chore. Today, when I got to the midway point of "Sept" followed by the excellent " Pro : Lov : Ad" I was actually finding myself really grooving with the music and just kinda going with it.
Electronic music, especially electronic instrumental music, has very rarely been a whole universe of music that I've been into, interested in or familiar with. In that way, I love that Luigii's chart and this album are choc full of these types of albums that are completely the other side of the musical spectrum from what I tend to perk up to when mentioned.
However, I'll say all the songs with some vocals, even if the vocals are all cut up and inhuman sounding at times, were cool and dreamy and I loved them. The glitchy tracks really bothered me. And the parts within otherwise great songs that started glitching and going crazy were the anti-matter of my enjoyment. Especially track 1. One of my all time worst first impressions to a classic album.
But its not like I think its noise, I recognize these are detailed and I'm sure quite virtuosic musical bits... which I would never have any interest in listening to. There's just a disconnect there.
"International" is an interesting kinda all over the place song that I love. The vocals and the beats are just peaceful and that's great.
The actual rock guitar on Chocolate Matter was a nice surprise. Pretty solid song. And the closer is dope as well. My fave song on first listen is "Dsco" because it was poppy and dreamy and catchy and i loved it straight away.
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I also don't like long albums with some exceptions. This album is 73 minutes. And even split over 2 listens it was a losing me a bit.
As a kid I loved long albums, as it seemed like more bang for my buck and it felt exciting to delve deeper and deeper into some 70-79 minute CD or 2 CD set. Back then I would save up, buy a CD and put it in my CD player and just play it for 20-30 minutes, pause, go do something else come back and push play and continue the album. I'd do this continually and may only manage to sit my childish ass down to hear the whole album in one sitting 1 out of 10 times. I'm not sure when it changed, but somewhere along the line I started listening to albums almost religiously straight through. To the point where if I stop an album even for 3 minutes and get distracted, I will sometimes start that bish over from track one so I can "hear the whole experience the way the artist intended" or something like that. I think that the fact that I find it perfect to just focus for 30-45 minutes on an album no distractions but find the same thing tougher for something 65 or up is strange. I think either method is fine. But I think I just had a breakthrough/realization as to why I sometimes find an album a chore these days that as a kid I would find a great experience.
Anyway, I digressed big time probably because I don't have anything intelligent to say. I like 50% of this album, LOVE 20% or so, and borderline hate (as of now) 28% (literally all the glitchy parts and breakdowns and super fast buzzing sounds and lazer sounds is what this 28 percent is made up of)... oh and 2%% is sort of unaccounted for.
on rate your music the massive list of genre descriptions for this album are as follows " Glitch Pop, IDM, Shoegaze
Dream Pop, Glitch, Ambient Pop, Noise Pop, Indietronica" And I can say without a doubt that none of those genres interest me one bit. Like no album of this kind or of those genres is on my overall chart I don't think. So the fact that this album was as enjoyable and engaging as it was is impressive and maybe this will be a slight intro drug to this whole new world. needs more blues guitar.
Top 10 albums on RYM I have not heard or, if I have, I remember very little and functionally are blindspots. (Not including archival or Live as of now).
1. Soundtracks for the Blind by Swans (#59)
2. Hunky Dory by David Bowie (#79)
3. Station to Station by David Bowie (#81)
4. Mingus Ah Um by Charles Mingus (#105)
5. Ege Bamyasi by Can (#125)
6. ATLiens by OutKast (#134)
7. All Things Must Pass by George Harrison (#135)
8. Meddle by Pink Floyd (#138)
9. To Be Kind by Swans (#141)
10. Larks' Tongues in Aspic by King Crimson (#143)
This RYM ranking changes fast! I had to update every rank above. Good stuff. _________________ -Ryan
Okay, started this last night and almost gave up midway through first song. But pushed a bit further and listened to first 4 tracks. Then just now I finished the album at last! Last night, not gonna lie, it was a chore. Today, when I got to the midway point of "Sept" followed by the excellent " Pro : Lov : Ad" I was actually finding myself really grooving with the music and just kinda going with it.
Electronic music, especially electronic instrumental music, has very rarely been a whole universe of music that I've been into, interested in or familiar with. In that way, I love that Luigii's chart and this album are choc full of these types of albums that are completely the other side of the musical spectrum from what I tend to perk up to when mentioned.
However, I'll say all the songs with some vocals, even if the vocals are all cut up and inhuman sounding at times, were cool and dreamy and I loved them. The glitchy tracks really bothered me. And the parts within otherwise great songs that started glitching and going crazy were the anti-matter of my enjoyment. Especially track 1. One of my all time worst first impressions to a classic album.
But its not like I think its noise, I recognize these are detailed and I'm sure quite virtuosic musical bits... which I would never have any interest in listening to. There's just a disconnect there.
"International" is an interesting kinda all over the place song that I love. The vocals and the beats are just peaceful and that's great.
The actual rock guitar on Chocolate Matter was a nice surprise. Pretty solid song. And the closer is dope as well. My fave song on first listen is "Dsco" because it was poppy and dreamy and catchy and i loved it straight away.
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I also don't like long albums with some exceptions. This album is 73 minutes. And even split over 2 listens it was a losing me a bit.
As a kid I loved long albums, as it seemed like more bang for my buck and it felt exciting to delve deeper and deeper into some 70-79 minute CD or 2 CD set. Back then I would save up, buy a CD and put it in my CD player and just play it for 20-30 minutes, pause, go do something else come back and push play and continue the album. I'd do this continually and may only manage to sit my childish ass down to hear the whole album in one sitting 1 out of 10 times. I'm not sure when it changed, but somewhere along the line I started listening to albums almost religiously straight through. To the point where if I stop an album even for 3 minutes and get distracted, I will sometimes start that bish over from track one so I can "hear the whole experience the way the artist intended" or something like that. I think that the fact that I find it perfect to just focus for 30-45 minutes on an album no distractions but find the same thing tougher for something 65 or up is strange. I think either method is fine. But I think I just had a breakthrough/realization as to why I sometimes find an album a chore these days that as a kid I would find a great experience.
Anyway, I digressed big time probably because I don't have anything intelligent to say. I like 50% of this album, LOVE 20% or so, and borderline hate (as of now) 28% (literally all the glitchy parts and breakdowns and super fast buzzing sounds and lazer sounds is what this 28 percent is made up of)... oh and 2%% is sort of unaccounted for.
on rate your music the massive list of genre descriptions for this album are as follows " Glitch Pop, IDM, Shoegaze
Dream Pop, Glitch, Ambient Pop, Noise Pop, Indietronica" And I can say without a doubt that none of those genres interest me one bit. Like no album of this kind or of those genres is on my overall chart I don't think. So the fact that this album was as enjoyable and engaging as it was is impressive and maybe this will be a slight intro drug to this whole new world. needs more blues guitar.
uneducated first listen grade 2.5/5
You know, when you mention more blues guitar I have a bit of a suspicion that you would like Bibio's discography or would really love The Campfire Headphase from Boards of Canada. But I do understand where you are coming from. Glitch, especially for people that don't delve into electronic music will either be ecstatic or just end up feeling shell shocked by it. And keep in mind, it could get even more intense. I'm kind of grinning but kind of get the plight whenever you have to listen to some Autechre album like Confield and can picture you giving up at Pen Expers. But I would say when you continue your journey through electronic music, give this another listen whenever your in the mood for it.
Now reading through this, I would expect you weren't crazy about the Breakdown part of track four? As well as while it would be against your expense on how there was a youtube comment that mentioned Track 1 being a pleb filter. But the fact you trucked along is important. And you will find records from this genre you will love. Just keep on digging. Might get to Flaming Lips tonight, but we will see. If not, probably for tomorrow.
Also want to add even if you weren't crazy about this album, I'd say give there 1998 and 2009 albums a listen.
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baystateoftheartNeil Young as a butternut squashProfile Massachusetts
This sounds very similar to their 1983 debut... shocker! The 1984 edition has the same groovy electro production and the same journeyman-caliber rhymes. Luckily it doesn't have the same internal repetition, but Out Of Control borrows heavily from 1983's The Haunted House Of Rock, and that might be worse. It's cool to hear the DOOM sample source Friends, which is also the standout track. I also really enjoyed Five Minutes Of Funk. While this is a slight upgrade over their self-titled, the non-standout tracks blend together, in particular those that are instrumentally focused, and Escape fails to remedy the biggest problems of its predecessor. Still, it's a fun album, and a high 3/5.
1981 gold: Live Convention 81 - Various Artists
1982 silver: Live Convention 82 - Various Artists
1983 bronze: Players - Too $hort
1984 bronze: Fat Boys - Fat Boys
1985 silver: The Album - Mantronix
1987 silver: Criminal Minded - Boogie Down Productions
1989 bronze: No One Can Do It Better - The D.O.C.
2002 gold: Nada Como Um Dia Apรณs O Outro Dia - Racionais MCโs
2003 gold: Bir Pesimistin Gรถzyaลlarฤฑ - Sagopa Kajmer
2007 silver: Volume 9: Negative Thoughts - DJ Sound _________________ Join us in the canon game :) / Add me on RYM
Don't get to listen to albums from Lithuania very often, and if this is any indication as to the creativity and wackiness of their music scene, then I guess I've been overlooking them. This is not your typical Black Metal album, no, it's only Black Metal part of the time and musical jambalya the rest of the time. There's strings, synths, and horns that pop in and out as they please on a few tracks, and it's an album that keeps you guessing. All while supplying some crunchy riffage and strange rhythms from the drummer. The vocals are probably the weakest part, but the vocalist has a shining moment here and there. Totally unique album, probably not for everyone, but I'd reccommend it if you're tired of the same old metal albums, because this is not one of those.
Criminal Minded and No One Can Do It Better are both classics. I think all go with KRS-One and Criminal Minded.
Il Baricentro - Sconcerto
Violent Onsen Geisha - Excrete Music
Silvio Rodriguez-Al final de este viaje
Emmanuelle Parrenin โโ Maison Ros
Sasha & Digweed-Northern Exposure
Spirit Agent - Depth Perception
Charalambides- Joy Shapes
Derrick Carter - The Many Shades of Cajual
Klimperei - Les Plus Belles Valses de Klimperei
Frank Garvey - Omnicircus
baystateoftheartNeil Young as a butternut squashProfile Massachusetts
You know, when you mention more blues guitar I have a bit of a suspicion that you would like Bibio's discography or would really love The Campfire Headphase from Boards of Canada. But I do understand where you are coming from. Glitch, especially for people that don't delve into electronic music will either be ecstatic or just end up feeling shell shocked by it. And keep in mind, it could get even more intense. I'm kind of grinning but kind of get the plight whenever you have to listen to some Autechre album like Confield and can picture you giving up at Pen Expers. But I would say when you continue your journey through electronic music, give this another listen whenever your in the mood for it.
Now reading through this, I would expect you weren't crazy about the Breakdown part of track four? As well as while it would be against your expense on how there was a youtube comment that mentioned Track 1 being a pleb filter. But the fact you trucked along is important. And you will find records from this genre you will love. Just keep on digging. Might get to Flaming Lips tonight, but we will see. If not, probably for tomorrow.
Also want to add even if you weren't crazy about this album, I'd say give there 1998 and 2009 albums a listen.
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I'm not offended. That is pretty accurate and I was nearly a full on pleb! Thank god i barely passed the test.
Yeah I think i may have even tried autechre and stopped quickly.
Although I think I will check out their (Sweet Trip's) album after this one pretty soon as part of the whole listening to the highest ranked albums on RYM. Its somewhere in the 300s. Overall not a bad experience. The closest i ever came to loving IDM is the Boards of Canada album "Music Has The Right To Children." Kinda adored that album 7 years ago. Will try again. As for liking stuff with t/hat glitch pop sound, i don't know if Dntel's album "Life is Full of Possibilities" qualifies. But I loved that album awhile back.
Will look into Bibio and I will finally listen to other Boards of canada other than that most famous of their albums, starting with that one you recommended or Geogaddi. _________________ -Ryan
I'll do something i never do: a track by track breakdown with no breakdown but just grades.
Station to Station - 9.7/10
Golden Years - 10/10
Word On A Wing - 8.3/10
TVC15 - 10/10
Stay - 9.4/10
Wild Is The Wind - 5.7/10
Basically the first song is a masterpiece (The build up is not my fave, but by 3:20 its reached its fully formed perfection and for 7 minutes it floats at top tier 10/10 quality.) Then Golden Years is just perfect, full stop. At first when I heard it a decade ago i didn't think much of it. But it has blossomed into just a perfect rock song and its like no other song out there. As for the final song on side 1, "Word on the Wind" i saw some people in the RYM comments putting this down as a bit of a snooze...huh? I get saying that about the album closer, but this song is friggin sweet and strangely lovely and sincere and the bass lines are badass. Its a solid goddamn song.
Side 2 starts with yet another perfect rock song that just blows my mind how in step everything is - talkin' "TVC15" of course. And then track 5 - Stay - is similarly badass with its sick groove and cooler than cool guitar and percussion! I fucking love it too.
If not for the silly corny nina simone cover that ends it, this album would be as close to perfect a rock album as I've heard in forever. Yet, despite the last song this IS a special album! I never got into it back in the day when I bought it and spun it a couple times. Now, though, its really turned a corner and may be (as of now) my fave Bowie album! Holy shit!
I listened to a couple times back to back and yeah its hard to explain how smooth, rocking, groovy and sick an album it is. I didn't expect to be so blown away by the session musicians on this! The drummer, guitarist, bass player, all involved somehow turned into one of the best rock bands in the world while recording this in 1976. Even on Wild is the Wind its not their fault its kinda corny and a downer - i lay the blame on the ridiculous and silly song choice and the vocals.
Anyway, yeah, stellar. amazing. glad I finally really appreciated and listened to this closely.
4.5/5
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@The1ChiefRocka, Silvio Rodriguez-Al final de este viaje sounds interesting
Top 10 albums on RYM I have not heard or, if I have, I remember very little and functionally are blindspots. (Not including archival or Live as of now).
1. Soundtracks for the Blind by Swans (#59)
2. Hunky Dory by David Bowie (#79)
3. Mingus Ah Um by Charles Mingus (#105)
4. Ege Bamyasi by Can (#125)
5. ATLiens by OutKast (#134)
6. All Things Must Pass by George Harrison (#135)
7. Meddle by Pink Floyd (#138)
8. To Be Kind by Swans (#141)
9. Larks' Tongues in Aspic by King Crimson (#143)
10. Cosmo's Factory by Creedence Clearwater Revival (#148) _________________ -Ryan
I got bored and decided to do something I wanted to do for a long time which was to listen to charts here from posters. I stopped playing this game partially because I started listening to 40s and 30s singles which didn't fit and because I'm embarrassed with how much I post on this site.
Mingus Ah Um for ya Mercury
Then here's Mercury's overall that I haven't listened to: (many selections seem fitting for my 30s/40s jaunt):
The Complete Recordings by Robert Johnson
Car Wheels On A Gravel Road by Lucinda Williams
Heartbreaker by Ryan Adams
Time (The Revelator) by Gillian Welch
Sometimes The Blues Is Just A Passing Bird by The Tallest Man On Earth
King Of The Country Blues by Blind Lemon Jefferson
The Classic Years 1927-1940 by Blind Willie McTell
His Best (Chess 50th Anniversary Collection) by Little Walter
Looks Like Rain by Mickey Newbury
Then Play On by Fleetwood Mac
MercuryTurn your back on the pay-you-back last callProfile St. Louis
This was exactly what the doctor ordered. Its like the stars aligned, as when I awoke this morning I felt like I needed to hear more Mingus and yet wanted to play this game and voila! I was nominated this classic.
This has one of the most brilliant opening tracks ever, the song "Better Get It In Your Soul" is incredibly badass, soulful, invigorating and just 10/10 every second of the way. The famous second track "Goodbye Pork Pie Hat" is also a 10/10 for completely different reasons - its a sould searching, somber, lonesome sound which I adore.
From there Boogie Stop Shuffle is god tier too, so energetic and brilliantly composed. There is not 1 wasted second or less than awesome second on the first 3 tracks. Track 4 Self-Portrait in Three Colours" has a dope name and sound, its beauty maybe didn't captivate me to the same degree as track 2, very different moods really. But its great.
The next 3 tracks are all stellar - Open Letter to Duke, to Bird Calls, to Fables of Faubus is just boom boom boom home run after home run.
The remainder of the album is still 9/10 stuff but just doesn't blow my everloving mind quite to the same degree. But this is really my first listen, this is most likely a grower so I will be revisiting.
Overall I love the bluesy soul of Mingus. He's cool, he's genius, his arrangements are always unique and pristine, but keeps me emotionally attached with a primal soulfulness which is sometimes lost in other classic Hard Bop albums. He is always just as sophistocated and technically amazing as anyone else but he manages to not just excel at the mind blowing technical feats, and he reaches one hand over into the deep down soul and blues that makes me just vibe with this man more than almost any other jazz artist of the era (outside of Miles....and maybe even more than him, its close. lets call it a tie.)
Anyway, this was amazing. 4.5/5 - honestly probably a 5. but just can't say its a rare 5. on 3rd o 4 th listen it may ascend in my noggin'
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@RoundTheBend - was waiting to see if anyone jumps in, as I don't feel like I should be selfishly recing from my own chart haha (i know its a silly consideration, but I felt kinda conceited.) But you made me smile with that chart pick. ๐ฅฐ - anyway, I nominate the massive The Complete Recordings of Robert Johnson (it's only 1 hour 44 minutes, so shorter than those famous swans albums, but this includes all takes of all his songs on record. - King of the Delta Blues Singers may be a better introduction, but some classics aren't included such as Sweet Home Chicago. Anyway, I'll stop talking)
Oh and I'm super happy to have you playing this game with us!
Top 10 albums on RYM I have not heard or, if I have, I remember very little and functionally are blindspots. (Not including archival or Live as of now).
1. Soundtracks for the Blind by Swans (#59)
2. Hunky Dory by David Bowie (#79)
3. Ege Bamyasi by Can (#125)
4. ATLiens by OutKast (#134)
5. All Things Must Pass by George Harrison (#135)
6. Meddle by Pink Floyd (#138)
7. To Be Kind by Swans (#141)
8. Larks' Tongues in Aspic by King Crimson (#143)
9. Cosmo's Factory by Creedence Clearwater Revival (#148)
10. Symphony No. 9 by well, Beethoven but also Berliner Philharmoniker / Herbert von Karajan _________________ -Ryan
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