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these are the first 8 albums i'll be listening to for this...


Group 1 #1 Seed


Saint Dominic's Preview by Van Morrison

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Group 1 #16 Seed



Since There Were Circles by Bob Lind

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Group 2 #1 Seed


Songs From Suicide Bridge by Kauffman & Caboor

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Group 2 #16 Seed



Iron Curtain Innocence by Bobb Trimble

Group 3 #1 Seed


Ys by Joanna Newsom

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Group 3 #16 Seed



The World Is Saved by Stina Nordenstam

Group 4 #1 Seed


Divers by Joanna Newsom

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Group 4 #16 Seed



Old Chestnut by Ned Collette
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Songs From Suicide Bridge by Kauffman & Caboor

previous exposure to either artist? None. At least not as far as I know. Pretty fresh sounds to my ears.

This was really good. Like, it really subtly affected me and made me feel a dark sadness. The guitar playing, melodies, atmosphere were great on almost the whole thing. The lyrics were mostly excellent - if tragic. But the final song is a great example of a bit of a downer album helping you back on your feet and dusting you off.

Album cover is great, Name of the album is brilliant.

Fave lyrics? hmm... not sure oh yeah there was one little thingamajig that hit hard (amongst many others) about christmas and it was a bit too real.

"Sunset Christmas evening
Church bells in your ears
Nothing's to give, boy
And nothing's to receive
This year"

all in all after 1 full listen I get why this is revered. Its so incredibly timeless sounding. And I think (but I don't know) you can hear the influence of this sort of sad, depressive, committed-to-the-darkness vibe in a lot of 90s and 2000s music, especially the sadder side of indie folk songwriting.

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It was up against


Iron Curtain Innocence by Bobb Trimble

previous exposure to artist? I listened to his next album after this one - Harvest of Dreams - a couple years back when perusin' 1982 music. I kinda sorta loved that album. Never came to this as far as I recall.

This is a solid psychedelic folk album, with some really strange and smoky production, some interesting high pitched vocals, some cleans guitar mixed in with the more atmospheric muddled guitar. The sounds are unique and if you like 60s psych folk stuff you'll dig it. And i like that stuff. so...i dug it. Some momentum lost as album trudges on. First few songs are pretty good bordering on great. not sure why he felt the need to include the same song twice here, but whatever.

Not as good as Harvest of Dreams as I feel that album was more cohesive and seemed to be more focused on the surreal, foggy sound. I may be remembering that album with rosy glasses but I gave it a 4/5 at the time and that makes sense. This is more of a 3.

this is the opening track and its awesome and maybe the best song here.


Link


lame cover art, cool enough name i guess. neither are as ace as its competition.

speaking of which, the lyrics weren't same tier as Songs from Suicide Bridge either. They were kinda unclear but i caught a few things, and I think i understood them. they were about girls, right?

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Verdict: Easy 46-21 win by the number one seeded Songs From Suicide Bridge. They will celebrate and wait (a long while i would imagine) to see who wins the Rickie Lee Jones-Jackson Browne match later this week. It's fair to say, whoever they face in the next round, hell even if the tournament runner switches it up and has them face the winner of the Group 3 round 1 match, they should feel confident and good about their efforts today and their prospects going forward.

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Saint Dominic's Preview by Van Morrison

previous exposure to artist? I consider Astral Weeks to be essentially perfect and, funny story, I was listening to this album for the first time when I was 14 on my Sony Walkmen. I was in the waiting area as my first niece was being born. It was in the calm before the storm moment, and I was listening to Astral Weeks while also contemplating the miracle and beauty of life and grappling with the fact that teenage me was about to be a fucking uncle. I am pretty sure i shed a tear or 2 when I was listening to Madame George. anyway, I digress.

I also have heard Moondance which i think is good but never blew me away (Crazy Love is one of my faves), Veedon Fleece which is also good if not great but needs a revisit, "His Band and the Street Choir" which is okay, and the odd single here and there.

The thing with this album and all albums I have heard from Van Morrison post-Astral Weeks, is I feel like nothing has remotely come even slightly close to it. The gibberish sounds that Van would spout in Astral Weeks felt primal and pure, but whenever I hear some fucking syllabic rat-a-tat shit from him on almost anything else I tend to get annoyed. I don't know why but it feels silly outside of '68. His voice is the same damn voice but it doesn't hit like it does there. But okay, the sounds aside, there are some really friggin great songs here that I loved. And not gonna lie I felt almost a hint of the magic come back on the closing track here "Almost Independence Day". The loungin, joyous vibes with its horns and its yelps and stuff is really good throughout. The songs are solid. If I had never heard his album from 1968 I would probably be more impressed.

Okay, the cover art is kinda stupid. The name is cool but I am sure I am missing something cuz I'm not nearly the man Van is.

Lyrics? You Talkin' lyrics?? This man is a brilliant lyricist. I love it when a songwriter gives specifics - you know, dates, street names, people's names, actual fully formed sentences that express clearly a time and place and form and action etc. And Van is one of the masters. Even though I can't always understand him, reading his lyrics sheet is cool. Most of these poetic albums really look lame without music. Not so much with van.

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it's competition was the 1971 album...


Since There Were Circles by Bob Lind

previous exposure: none. The dillards play on these songs which is dope.

This album is so great! Maybe the fact that I have no baggage with this artist, but I found myself clicking with this album more. His voice is really odd. It honestly sounds like Ozzy Osborne at times. I know, but really really... can you hear it here at all? or am I trippin'?


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actually the song here that sounds the most like Ozzy is "city scenes" but i can't find that on YT.

Anyway, the whole album was consistently engaging and differentiated itself enough that I wasn't bored or rolling my eyes at the cliche. Cuz the performances are great! The country songs are crisp, the more dour and kinda meaner songs like the above "Loser" which i shared a link for are so bluesy and expressive. The lyrics are equal parts poetic and a little airy fairy, and also direct and up front.

Okay, and the name of the album and the cover are cooler than that Van Morrison album. sorry but its true and you know it.

Lyrics aren't really a competition, although the lyrics and little details here are great! It just isn't quite the same level as Van. Then again, I can understand all the words here more clearly and that is something.

anyway.... this is a tough one so lets stop delaying....

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In a stunning upset, Since There Were Circles come out on top in 36 to 33 nailbiter! Holy cannoli!!! They will play the highest seed to survive either this group's first round or the 4th group's first round depending on what Ryan decides at that time.
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My Fave Metal - you won't believe #5!!!
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Yay - I'm assuming this is that project you were working on and basically are gamifying it... genius! Really good list. Makes me want to revisit this myself (I made a chart I'm mostly ashamed of and is full of ignorance... needs a revamp with a cool process like this).

Also when you are done, I think what really would make Gowi happy is a Emmylou only tournament ๐Ÿ˜„
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Mercury wrote:


In a stunning upset, Since There Were Circles come out on top in 36 to 33 nailbiter! Holy cannoli!!![ They will play the highest seed to survive either this group's first round or the 4th group's first round depending on what Ryan decides at that time.


Haha! Glad you're having fun with this, brother. ๐Ÿ˜Ž
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Repo wrote:
Mercury wrote:


In a stunning upset, Since There Were Circles come out on top in 36 to 33 nailbiter! Holy cannoli!!![ They will play the highest seed to survive either this group's first round or the 4th group's first round depending on what Ryan decides at that time.


Haha! Glad you're having fun with this, brother. 8)


yeah I am. and thanks. I saw you even listened to Bob Lind. cool.
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RoundTheBend wrote:


Also when you are done, I think what really would make Gowi happy is a Emmylou only tournament :)


funny you should say THAT https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/v...;start=190
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Divers by Joanna Newsom

She is a genius. I hear clearly. And I can read, y'know. And her lyrics are absurdly rich. The arrangements are so deft and varied and timeless here. Sometimes I just go and read her lyrics and its overwhelming, like reading T.S. Elliott or something.

She's also a great musician, with a mind and ear for melody and arrangements on par with the great Prog Rock legends.

I remember when I first arrived to BEA she was probably the most revered modern artist. Her albums to that point were adored. I tried Ys a few times and I couldn't decipher it and gave up. But I always felt like I was missing something vital in my life considering my favorite music aligns so beautifully with hers. And right as I kinda forgot about this void in my singer/songwriter appreciation, in 2015 she dropped this album "Divers" and the love and adoration rekindled. And I listened to this album and I remember really liking it. But again I felt like I was missing something.

As an analogy I guess its like going to an art museum with a few of your peers. You come upon a gallery and there is some great renowned artist's work there and all your friends gasp and look intently and talk amongst themselves in hushed tones and speak of all the beautiful details and deeper meanings and historical allusions. All the while you are there and you really like it, but you are 100% sure you are not getting it. It's a weird feeling.

I mean, in the end we like what we like. And I can say after a much needed revisit of this album I like this. It just never quite overcame me. The appreciation was at an arm's length. Meanwhile the other album I heard for this faux-tournament was also very abstract in its own way but it absolutely swept me away to another time and place and inspired me in a 100 ways. But that Ned Collette album is a relative unknown and he is a comparatively unsung songwriter. So I guess I worry (silly as it seems) people will see me as a contrarian for not recognizing the objectively better album by the objectively greater musician in Newsom. I mean I just voted Lind over Van fucking morrison.

This album strikes me as brilliant but when it comes to personal enjoyment its a 3.5/5. One development is that her voice for the first time ever in hearing a Newsom album wasn't a major hindrance. It still got a little bit on my nerves at times, but I am glad I can finally look past it and enjoy her music. Hell, there are a few times I really liked her vocals on this album. That bodes well for my upcoming re-listen to the masterpiece (apparently) Ys and the lesser known Stina Nordenstam album. Part of me hopes the Stina album is just okay so I can vote Newsom to the next round in one of these at least. I don't wanna shut down all Newsom's music for this silly thing.

I'll post this and then post my thoughts on Ned Collette's Old Chestnut later which blew my mind last night.
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Old Chestnut by Ned Collette

I love this album. Its a long one, would be a double album if I wasn't listening on apple music.

Anyway, Ned Collette is one of my new favorites which I really fell for a month or 2 ago. His albums Future Suture, Jokes and Trials, and especially Over the Stones Under The Stars are great (the last one is on my overall chart and I wrote about it here a few pages back). I hadn't gotten around to this album yet and saw a good opportunity now.

I don't wanna talk too much about the music - except that's kinda the point. The music here is so beautiful, hypnotic. The guitar parts are repetitive and gorgeous and the vocals are very Leonard Cohen-esque. The lyrics are deeply sad and observational. Maybe 1/3 of the album are instrumental acoustic guitar experiments or like idk tone poems or something. The instrumentals are gorgeous and mostly just guitar and piano with some big build ups. The songs with vocals are so sad and tragic. The whole atmosphere of the album is exactly what my heart wanted.

Ina perfect world run by yours truly this album would have become an aoty contender back in 2018. It such a rich and overwhelmingly ambitious yet austere masterpiece. May be my favorite Ned Collette album already. I'm kinda breaking the rules of the game by listening to this album again now.

If you like Songs From a Room by Leonard Cohen you'll at least appreciate this. And if you have 72 minutes to set aside for this album, I can't recommend it enough.

may be a bit brash but Imma give this 5/5.

at least listen to this


Link


"Itโ€™s already half a life ago
You were at the wheel
the car was sailing with its load
We watched the city turn itโ€™s back
Into a forest blue
Fingers straight and sweeping to the sky"

also this is dreamy and amazing and at 4 minutes in a really out of nowhere but beautifully executed electric guitar and drums show up and those are the first sightings of such in this album. Its a real breathe of fresh air. God damn I love this album.


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"All of us can disagree
About the mode of being free
But one thing that is obvious
Is that the subject left the room some time ago" - This lyric is the modern discourse in a nutshell.


This is one of the most beautiful instrumentals I ever heard. So simple. So pure. made me weep just now a little

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Yep this is the winner. I kinda feel bad cuz Divers is GREAT and yet had no chance.
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MADE THis chART

My Favorite Singer/Songwriter albums ranked by Mercury

1 album per artist. Subject to much change and I am fascinated to see how it changes as I do this project torunament thing. (already added Ys and Old Chestnut high cuz they both clicked... more on my volte vice on my thoughts on Ys... its amazing.)

Anyway, let me know your thoughts on this chart. and if you have a recommendation, comment and let me know on the chart or here. Maybe I have never heard it...
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