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- #223
- Posted: 05/20/2025 01:38
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Frank Gehry (1929 - )
Best Works:
6.8/10: Dancing House (1992 - 1996) [Architecture]
7.6/10: Guggenheim Museum (1991 - 1997) [Architecture]
6.6/10: Walt Disney Concert Hall (1999 - 2003) [Architecture]
7.7/10: Stata Center (2001 - 2004) [Architecture]
7.7/10: Cleveland Clinic Lou Ruvo Center for Brain Health (2007 - 2010) [Architecture]
Dancing House - Frank Gehry and Vlado Milunić (1992 - 1996) / Prague, Czech Republic [Architecture]
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ADD MORE PICS, VIDEOS, LINKS...
VIDEO - TOUR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cCYs4rOUMc
Guggenheim Museum - Frank Gehry (1991 - 1997) / Abando, Bilbao, Spain [Architecture]
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GUGGENHEIM BILBAO WEBSITE - HQ PHOTO GALLERY, VIDEOS - EXTERIOR: https://www.guggenheim-bilbao.eus/en/th...the-museum
GUGGENHEIM BILBAO WEBSITE - HQ PHOTO GALLERY, VIDEOS - INTERIOR: https://www.guggenheim-bilbao.eus/en/th...the-museum
VIRTUAL TOUR - INTERIOR: https://www.guggenheim-bilbao.eus/en/vi...l-interior
NOTE: If I find a good, thorough video walking tour (that doesn't take you to each art work within the museum and hone in on those, but actually is more focused on the architecture and detail of the museum itself) I'll add it...
Walt Disney Concert Hall - Frank Gehry (1999 - 2003) / Los Angeles, California, USA [Architecture]
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Stata Center - Frank Gehry (2001 - 2004) / Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA [Architecture]
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WILL ADD MORE INTERIOR SHOTS, LINKS, VIDEOS SOON...
Cleveland Clinic Lou Ruvo Center for Brain Health - Frank Gehry (2007 - 2010) / Las Vegas, Nevada, USA [Architecture]
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PHOTO GALLERY, INFORMATIONAL: https://homepages.bluffton.edu/~sulliva...brain.html
PHOTO GALLERY, INFORMATIONAL: https://buildipedia.com/aec-pros/featur...=component
WILL ADD MORE PICS, LINKS, VIDEOS SOON... _________________ Best Classical
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- #224
- Posted: 05/20/2025 14:25
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Misc thoughts...
I thought it amusing to follow up Canova's Psyche Revived sculpture with -- of all things -- Safdie's Habitat 67. Hard to find a better pair of opposites. Canova would be truly appalled. The greatness of Safdies' work is that it is remarkable as a massively intricate composition where every single unit manages to be connected with the outside nature/views despite its apparent confusion (actually a massively, seamless, intricate network) and elegantly interconnected as in a community while also "boxed" in to a brutalist (with mundane exterior individually) common variety home. This makes it an ironic counterpoint to the genre, both a bit of a monstrosity while benevolent and poetic at the same time.
As for Frank Gehry...
I have long being mixed on him, as a bit too much "style over substance" and "form over function". I do consider him (or at least his best works) "deconstructivism" (even if he sorta denies this -- which I think is more his wanting to not be pigeon holed than a serious disagreement that his works align to this genre) and I think the tenets of this, his application of them, perhaps to the extreme, may render him a more remarkable artist than some more traditional "form and function" proponents tend to give him credit. I say this even knowing that it can be a mistake to treat architecture too much as "sculpture" which Gehry certainly abides by.
However, in regards to being mixed (while I still have some reservations that gives me pause at rating them even higher; which I still may do...) the revelatory and stunning aspect of works like the Stata and Guggenheim Bilbao as perhaps his best examples, is that his buildings are "deconstructing" as much as they are in the perpetual act of flowing or undulating or reaching out or "moving" towards a more complete form. The shapes are reaching a shape only to be (simultaneously) an act of deconstruction of said aim, caught in a perpetual tension between these two ends (every "reach" or "urge" of shape/form is also a radical curling inward or detour or deconstruction of that incomplete end; so, for example, if you look at an overhead view of the Guggenheim it is almost a flower but is also deconstructing and spiraling back out of control of that form). Seen in this view, the forms and composition appear even more radical and (almost anarchically, vigorously, even ferociously) emotional against the very modernist architecture and "brutalism" it is visually echoing -- and purposeful or meaningful (even if it is a simultaneity of meaning and negation of) -- than they already are. So an even more pronounced brutality occurs. Also the forms are often simultaneously "balletic" and grotesque. Gehry applies "ugly" and "brutalist" materials to his works that are yet often curvilinear and "musical" (flowing, not rigid). So they are a continual dichotomy/tension with modernism, using its own ideas, materials, visual cues against itself in an attack (and creation) upon form and upon rigidity and monotony.
As regards "function" don't know what to tell ya on that point One hilarious comment I've seen on the Stata from someone who worked there was "I could always see where I wanted to go, but could never seem to get there"
I would say that one could argue he is trying to inspire a more unique, creative application of the users space (and, as one surveys the outside or walks through the inside, to additionally evoke the sort of emotions/feelings/reactions about modernism and the modernist world that I mention above). Whether or not he is entirely successful as a purely more "functional" composer (even allowing him that) is probably hit and miss. _________________ Best Classical
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- #225
- Posted: 05/20/2025 16:46
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Piggy backing off of my thoughts above, here are some excerpts from an interview I just came across... (from altaonline.com) https://www.altaonline.com/dispatches/a...ank-gehry/
EXCERPTS:
FRANK GEHRY: This was right when Modernism was hitting its dead end. And everybody was looking for the new way, right? Modernism was cold — it was mechanical. It wasn’t that the architects that made it were mechanical; it was the way it was subverted by the culture.
There was a sigh of relief when the MoMA show happened because all of a sudden you saw these beautiful renderings of Beaux-Arts buildings. And they were very seductive. Everybody just went gaga over them. And so, all of a sudden, there was a turn. Philip Johnson did [New York’s AT&T building], Charlie Moore, Michael Graves. I think everybody was looking for a humanistic gesture that would soften the blow of Modernism. I got pissed off because I grew up a Modernist, right, in those years, and I was committed.
One of Gehry’s most notable buildings in his evolution to post-Modernism was his own home, in Santa Monica — a riot of corrugated metal, chain link and other unusual materials.
WILL HEARST: I see your Santa Monica house as perhaps the first time that people thought, “Who is this guy? What is he doing? This is something. Is he different, is he too different, what’s going on? I have to pay attention to that.”
You’ve changed the way we look at the world. When I first went to your house, I thought, “He’s got all this plywood and chain link.” But there was a wonderful spirit in your kitchen. Inside this crazy box with the wild windows, it felt like I could spend all day in this kitchen.
The other thing was, in my brain, I heard your voice saying, “Walk out there onto Pico [Boulevard, in Santa Monica] and have a look. What are you doing to see? Do you think you’re going to see the Taj Mahal? You’re gonna see chain link, you’re gonna see plywood, you’re gonna see a construction site with scaffolding. That’s the actual city.”
FRANK GEHRY: Well, the chain link was really about that. The chain link was — I get fastened on an idea and then I’ve got to act on it. I went to a lecture on denialism with a bunch of shrinks and the mechanism and what it means in the culture and everything. And I was trying to find the expression of it in architecture. I found it.
Chain-link fence is the most produced product in the world. And it’s absorbed by every culture in the world. And it’s the most hated material in the world. So that is the essence of denialism. I thought: “Here’s a great model. Here’s something to really explore. How can you take the essence of denialism and flip it?” And that’s what I was trying to do.
WILL HEARST: How did you start to develop your post-Modernist style?
FRANK GEHRY: I think everybody was looking for a way out of Modernism, and they were trapped. Then came the MoMA Beaux-Arts show. Everybody was seduced by the beauty of it. This was buildings with all kinds of decoration — cornices and vaults and stuff like that. It’s quite beautiful. It’s very seductive. If you were Michael Graves and if you were Philip Johnson and if you were the young architects sitting there, [you were] trying to think of what the fuck do we do next. And all of a sudden MoMA shows you what somebody did, what a whole culture did for a number of years. And we had ignored it. It’s not copying Greek temples. It’s much more rich and refined and open. It’s an open system. You can take it anywhere.
I was looking for movement. Because I said that the culture is living in a state of movement. Everything around us is moving. Planes, cranes, cars. So, I was looking for a movement of vocabulary to replace Modernism. But how do you build this? I had to invent all the technology. _________________ Best Classical
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- #226
- Posted: 05/20/2025 22:49
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Philip Johnson (1906 - 2005)
Best Works:
7.3/10: Christ Cathedral (1977 - 1981; interior renovations in 2013) [Architecture]
Christ Cathedral - Philip Johnson and John Burgee (1977 - 1981; interior renovations in 2013) [previously "Crystal" Cathedral] / Garden Grove, California, USA [Architecture]
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PHOTO GALLERY - PHILIP JOHNSON ORIGINAL (Prior to 2013 renovations): https://www.archdaily.com/445618/ad-cla...ip-johnson
VIDEO - TOUR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Tu-vzcjM7Q _________________ Best Classical
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- #228
- Posted: 05/22/2025 01:39
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Ricardo Bofill (1939 - 2022)
Best Works:
6.0/10: Kafka Castle (1968) [Architecture]
7.4/10: La Muralla Roja (1968 - 1973) [Architecture]
6.4/10: Maritxell Sanctuary (1978) [Architecture]
7.5/10: Les Espaces d'Abraxas (1978 - 1983) [Architecture]
7.9/10: La Fabrica (1973 - 2022) [Architecture]
Kafka Castle - Ricardo Bofill (1968) / Sant Pere de Ribes, Barcelona, Spain [Architecture]
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PHOTO GALLERY, INFORMATIONAL: https://www.archdaily.com/870691/ad-cla...uitecturas
PHOTO GALLERY, INFORMATIONAL: https://archello.com/project/kafka-castle
PHOTO GALLERY, INFORMATIONAL: https://architizer.com/projects/kafka-castle/
La Muralla Roja - Ricardo Bofill (1968 - 1973) / Calpe, Alicante, Spain [Architecture]
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PHOTO GALLERY, INFORMATIONAL: https://ccmagazine.es/en/its-50-years-s...-red-wall/
PHOTO GALLERY, INFORMATIONAL: https://archeyes.com/la-muralla-roja-th...uitectura/
PHOTO GALLERY, INFORMATIONAL: https://www.archdaily.com/332438/ad-cla...rdo-bofill
PHOTO GALLERY - EVENING SHOTS: https://www.archdaily.com/979079/bofill...s-gallardo
VIDEO - DRONE FOOTAGE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MkDGa8Imj0
VIDEO - SEVERAL VIEWS, ANALYSIS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYTIlsagCnc
Maritxell Sanctuary - Ricardo Bofill (1978) / Maritxell, Canillo, Andorra [Architecture]
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PHOTO GALLERY, INFORMATIONAL: https://www.architecturelab.net/meritxe...do-bofill/
Les Espaces d'Abraxas - Ricardo Bofill (1978 - 1983) / Noisy-le-Grand, Paris, France [Architecture]
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SPACE PLAN OF THE THREE BUILDINGS AND COURTYARD: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/..._Grand.svg
VIDEO - AERIAL DRONE FOOTAGE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkAxsYZSVoo
VIDEO - TOUR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPlqdcGN6B0
VIDEO - 360 DEGREE PANORAMIC VIEW AND CONTROL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuWRxJFkvC4
VIDEO - TOUR, PHOTOGRAPHY: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqBmgT5Rat4
VIDEO - STARRING ROLE IN GILLIAM'S MASTERPIECE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gVnQ_KnKVg
La Fabrica - Ricardo Bofill (1973 - 2022) / Sant Just Desvern, Catalonia, Spain [Architecture]
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BOFILL'S WEBSITE - INSIGHTS AND PHOTOS: https://ricardobofill.com/la-fabrica/read/
PHOTO GALLERY AND INFORMATIONAL: https://www.designboom.com/architecture...2-25-2017/
PHOTO GALLERY AND INFORMATIONAL: https://www.archdaily.com/1004625/la-fa...nd-present
VIDEO - TOUR - CONSTRUCTION, EXPLANATION, DETAILS INCLUDING BOFILL HIMSELF: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KGZvt6R7ws
Under eval/revisiting...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbqSG6een1o
Anne Samat: https://www.thisiscolossal.com/2020/11/...heartedly/
https://sculpturemagazine.art/love-and-...nne-samat/
Pavel Filonov (revisit this artist)
Tatiana Glebova
Prison: https://www.museothyssen.org/en/collect...t=Prision% 2C%20a%20canvas%20in%20large,by%20the%20painter%20Alisa%20Poret.
Orozco
virtual tour - Massive mural "The Epic of American Civilization": https://hoodmuseum.dartmouth.edu/explor...ozcos-epic
Dive Bomber and Tank (museum, in situ): https://www.flickr.com/photos/lbravo/2193534079
Siqueiros
Collective Suicide: https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-gXIxS629s_4/...600/2b.jpg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/reehren/31958413782
Sylvain and Ghislaine: https://www.sg-staelens.com/album-2015340.html
https://img.over-blog-kiwi.com/0/56/73/...031803.jpg
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- #230
- Posted: 05/23/2025 16:03
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Some passing thoughts on a couple modern architects...
More works added for Ricardo Bofill, with more coming (see his page above), who as I am re-evaluating his works (and viewing some new ones to me) a bit more closely and thoroughly I am starting to wonder if he might be the greatest architect of the last 100 years (possibly above Wright, Gehry, Niemeyer, etc).
Not only have I possibly rated what I already have listed still a touch too low as it is (and have more excellent works to add yet), the sheer number of his projects (something like 1000) all over the world, and the amazing diversity of them (just look at the 3 best works I've chosen so far -- yes, those are from the same architect!?!?), lends this further credence, to say nothing of the impressive consistency of quality.
There is a really strong case for him being the greatest architectural composer for that (rough) period of the last 100 years -- again, accounting for both the brilliance of his compositions/building designs (both beautifully composed and very inventive), and the sheer diversity.
I have also been tempted to upgrade all 3 of Gehry's 7.5s (see his page), but I am hesitant. In terms of sheer impact, there is no question they could rank higher (so long as one gets what he is going for). But I have some hesitancy in regards depth, if they're too "novel" (over content) for their own good, this sort of thing. He is winning me over the more I return to him which is almost always a positive sign in the direction of upgrades though... Also... Fwiw, having all 3 at 7.5 at the moment, and bunched together in consecutive rank, is more a "place holder" than a true attempt at accuracy -- the 7.5 is a "rough avg" while I am still thinking about, reconsidering, re-evaluating them.
As always, for those interested: recommendations, your own selections, discussion, always welcome _________________ Best Classical
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