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- #1
- Posted: 06/14/2018 23:12
- Post subject: Best Ever Neo-Noir Films/Modern Film Noir [Poll]
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Welcome to the Neo-Noir Film genre poll! I know the name neo-noir sounds pretentious, but it just means “new noir” – modern film noir (what determines neo-noir is when the films came out, unlike neo-westerns). I’m categorizing all film noir from 1960 on as neo-noir, with the exception of seven black-and-white films from the early 60s. [Note: IMDb doesn’t label films after 1958 as film noir.]
I’ve divided classic film noir and neo-noir into two different polls because I didn’t think noir films from the 40s and 50s could fairly compete with Tarantino, the Coen Bros and David Lynch, and there are almost as many neo-noirs as film noirs. I decided to go backward and host the neo-noir one first, because I figured members have seen more of them and to save the classic noir poll for a particular member to host if he wants to.
The final list will be 100 films and lists max out at 100. No list is too small! To encourage participation, if you submit a list of 50 or more, each ranking will get the same score as that ranking on a 100-film list. Post your lists (if you can mark posted lists “FINAL LIST” when you’re pretty sure you’re done that’d be a help). No films less than 30 minutes or TV series.
What is film noir/neo-noir? Dark crime films with often unhappy endings. Deadly love triangles, gritty heists, hit men (not “international assassins”!), young lovers on the run, movies about criminals who aren’t charming, corrupt cops who never repent, hardboiled detectives who get put through the wringer.
Unless you already know you’ve seen quite a few neo-noirs, you may have seen a lot more than you think.
The seven noir films from the 60s I’m categorizing as classic film noir and so aren’t eligible:
Blast of Silence (1961), Cape Fear (1962), Experiment in Terror (1962), Man-Trap (1961), The Manchurian Candidate (1962), The Naked Kiss (1964), Underworld USA (1961)
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- #2
- Posted: 06/14/2018 23:14
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List of 200 Neo-Noir Films I made:
https://letterboxd.com/renndlefly/list/neo-noir
I winnowed down a starting list of 260 neo-noir films down to 200 by removing the worst and/or most obscure ones. It makes throwing a list together very easy.
Film Noir: The Encyclopedia’s Neo-Noir List (154 Films):
https://letterboxd.com/bbbgtoby/list/fi...-neo-noir/
Most authoritative neo-noir list I’ve seen, though it’s selective and prioritizes how “noir” a film is over how good it is.
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- #3
- Posted: 06/14/2018 23:22
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Famous directors who directed at least two neo-noir films:
Martin Scorsese: Taxi Driver, The Departed
Sam Peckinpah: Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia, The Getaway
Robert Altman: The Long Goodbye, Thieves Like Us, The Player
Coen brothers: Fargo, No Country for Old Men, The Big Lebowski, Blood Simple, The Man Who Wasn’t There
David Lynch: Mulholland Drive, Blue Velvet, Lost Highway, Wild at Heart
Quentin Tarantino: Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs, Jackie Brown
David Fincher: Se7en, Zodiac, Fight Club, The Game
Christopher Nolan: Memento, Following, Insomnia
Paul Thomas Anderson: Hard Eight, Inherent Vice
Michael Mann: Heat, Thief, Collateral, Manhunter, Miami Vice
William Friedkin: The French Connection, Killer Joe, To Live and Die in L.A.
Sidney Lumet: Dog Day Afternoon, Serpico, Before the Devil Knows You’re Dead
Clint Eastwood: Mystic River, Play Misty for Me, A Perfect World
Brian De Palma: Femme Fatale, The Black Dahlia, Blow-Out, Obsession (and probably others)
Steven Soderbergh: The Limey, The Underneath
Ridley Scott: Blade Runner, Someone to Watch Over Me
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mdbaxter
Gender: Male
Age: 30
Location: Boston, MA 
- #4
- Posted: 06/15/2018 00:25
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Do mafia movies count? I'm having a little trouble seeing the distinction between a film like The Departed or Reservoir Dogs and The Godfather or Goodfellas.
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- #5
- Posted: 06/15/2018 00:46
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| mdbaxter wrote: | | Do mafia movies count? I'm having a little trouble seeing the distinction between a film like The Departed or Reservoir Dogs and The Godfather or Goodfellas. |
Good question. Mob movies usually don't count. I think it's because there have been so many gangster movies that it's become a genre unto itself. Also the gangster movie cycle started in the 30s, with Little Caesar, the original Scarface, The Public Enemy etc., before film noir really got going, so it's traditionally been considered a separate genre.
The idea of The Departed being a neo-noir was mine -- my reasoning was that it was a remake of Infernal Affairs, which isn't a mafia movie and because one of the two main characters is an undercover cop.
Reservoir Dogs is a heist movie (and a very gritty and dark one, unlike The Ocean's franchise) and also an undercover cop movie, but I wouldn't call it a mob film.
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RoundTheBend
I miss the comfort in being sad
Location: Ground Control
- #6
- Posted: 06/15/2018 03:13
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Wow - this is quite the thing.
I know nothing about film other than I like some of them. I've seen Blood Simple...I didn't even know that had any form of Noir associated. By the way your link is missing an "r" at the end.
https://letterboxd.com/renndlefly/list/neo-noir
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- #7
- Posted: 06/15/2018 04:45
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| sethmadsen wrote: | | I know nothing about film other than I like some of them. I've seen Blood Simple...I didn't even know that had any form of Noir associated. By the way your link is missing an "r" at the end. |
Fixed. Thanks a lot for letting me know. I had tested the link, must've deleted the "r" afterward. 
Yeah, Blood Simple's a relatively straightforward modern film noir -- husband hiring someone to kill his wife because she's having an affair.
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bobbyb5
Gender: Male
Location: New York
- #8
- Posted: 06/15/2018 09:29
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1. Chinatown
2. The Long Goodbye
3. Black Widow
4. La Femme infidel
5. Eye of the Beholder (2003)
6. House of Games
7. Drive
8. Body Double
9. Klute
10. This Man Must Die
11. The Late Show
12. Eyes of Laura Mars
13. The Long Good Friday
14. Miami Blues
15. Fatal Attraction
16. Mike's Murder
17. Hollywoodland
18. The Onion Field
19. The Postman Always Rings Twice
20. Still of the Night
21. 52 Pickup
22. The Morning After
23. Prince of the City
24. Sea of Love
25. The Driver
26. To Live and Die in LA
27. Internal Affairs
28. Mulholland Falls
29. Body Heat
30. Blood Simple
31. The Drowning Pool
32. Masquerade
33. Obsession
34. D.O.A.
35. No Way Out
36. Bulletproof Heart
37. Sisters
38. Deep Red
39. Pulp Fiction
40. The Hit
41. Cape Fear (1991)
42. Rush
43. La Ceremonie
44. Sexy Beast
45. Road to Perdition
46. The Big Easy
47. The Last Seduction
48. Bunny Lake is Missing
49. Dressed to Kill
50. Night Moves
51. Eyewitness
52. Hardcore
52. The Last Embrace
53. Looper
54. Jade
55. Angel Heart
56. Unfaithful
57. The Cheap Detective
58. State of Grace
59. Jagged Edge
60. Bad Influence
61. The Limey
62. Farewell My Lovely
63. The Fourth Man
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Repo
BeA Sunflower
Location: Forest Park
- #9
- Posted: 06/15/2018 12:34
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great topic. Love these films.
just saw Against All Odds a couple of days ago and it's really good. James Wood. Jeff bridges. worth checking out if you're into this stuff.
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- #10
- Posted: 06/15/2018 21:21
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| bobbyb5 wrote: | 3. Black Widow
4. La Femme infidel
5. Eye of the Beholder
36. Bulletproof Heart
47. The Last Seduction
55. Angel Heart |
Impressive list! Bulletproof Heart -- that's a deep cut!
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