The Shrine/An Argument (track)
by Fleet Foxes
Year: 2011
From the album Helplessness Blues (track #10)
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The Shrine/An Argument appears on the following album(s) by Fleet Foxes:
- Helplessness Blues (track #10) (this album) (2011)
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| ! | 07/11/2026 23:55 |  AAL2014 | 39,813 | 76/100 |
| ! | 07/01/2026 00:22 | Exist-en-ciel | 165,677 | 71/100 |
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Awesome vocals.
Fleet Foxes' most meticulous and experimental track. It seamlessly covers a lot of different atmospheres and is beautiful throughout. One of their best.
It's easy to see why this is one of Robin Pecknold's favorite compositions.
Fantastic up until the squeaking starts around 6 minutes in.
arthur237 11/16/2013 13:16 | #92819
the singing makes the song brilliant..
You get to hear some roughness in Robin's voice, it's 8 minutes long, but it keeps you entertained! Definitely an Autumn song!
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