Bitter And Then Some (track)
by Converge
Bitter And Then Some appears on the following album(s) by Converge:
- Jane Doe (track #7) (this album) (2001)
- When Forever Comes Crashing (track #12) (1998)
- Jane Live (track #7) (2017)
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| Rating | Date updated | Member | Track ratings | Avg. track rating |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| ! | 02/13/2026 01:35 | mrmcrook | 11,458 | 78/100 |
| ! | 11/27/2025 23:56 | Exist-en-ciel | 77,959 | 70/100 |
| ! | 08/07/2025 13:03 | 31,393 | 81/100 | |
| ! | 01/01/2025 22:29 | dougcummings | 23,544 | 69/100 |
| ! | 03/12/2024 20:16 | Siromynian | 16,010 | 71/100 |
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This track is rated in the top 7% of all tracks on BestEverAlbums.com. This track has a Bayesian average rating of 79.5/100, a mean average of 80.2/100, and a trimmed mean (excluding outliers) of 80.2/100. The standard deviation for this track is 13.9.
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