12/17/12 (track)
by The Decemberists
Year: 2015
From the album What A Terrible World, What A Beautiful World (track #13)
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12/17/12 appears on the following album(s) by The Decemberists:
- What A Terrible World, What A Beautiful World (track #13) (this album) (2015)
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| Rating | Date updated | Member | Track ratings | Avg. track rating |
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| 09/01/2025 17:24 |  ExTeaSea | 12,708 | 85/100 | |
| 07/13/2024 03:47 |  imacgill | 31,530 | 81/100 | |
| 05/12/2023 18:35 |  paladisiac | 83,015 | 64/100 | |
| 03/14/2021 19:37 | JoeyBones1986 | 1,987 | 88/100 | |
| 11/15/2020 22:02 | sunnydhamm | 18,449 | 57/100 |
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The tracks which were previous to this song put a bad taste in my mouth, then this came on and I loved it. I loved the simplicity of the song, no fancy guitar work, stead drum beat, some harmonica thrown in. No instrumental was too daring, which often ended up be annoying on this album, it was refreshing to see a nice folk song that wasn't trying to be too progressive. All being said about the instrumental aspect of this song, there is also an incredibly strong lyrical aspect as well. Meloy looking at the Sandy Hook shooting (which took place on 12/17/12), trying to emphasize with the parents of the victims, he comes to the conclusion that his children, anyone's children, anything anyone loves, is something that can be lost. To love something is to risk the loss of it breaking your heart, and I think this song is deep, chilling, and important to listen to.
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