[RFNAPLES]

Here's one more:

Black Sabbath-Paranoid-1970
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[billiejoe605]

- ACDC: HIGHWAY TO HELL, THUNDERSTRUCK, YOU SHOOK ME ALL NIGHT LONG
- ALANIS MORISSETTE: ALL I REALLY WANT, HAND IN MY POCKET, YOU OUGHTA KNOW
- ARCADE FIRE: CROWN OF LOVE, NEIGHBORHOOD # 1
- ARCTIC MONKEYS: I BET YOU LOOK GOOD ON THE DANCEFLOOR, MARDY BUM, TEDDY PICKER
- ARETHA FRANKLIN: CHAIN OF FOOLS, I SAY A LITTLE PRAYER, RESPECT
- BEACH BOYS: GOOD VIBRATIONS
- BECK: LOSER
- BEN E KING: STAND BY ME
- BJORK: PLAY DEAD
- BLUR: GIRLS AND BOYS, SHE IS SO HIGH, SONG 2
- BOB MARLEY: NO WOMAN NO CRY, STIR IT UP
- BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN: DANCING IN THE DARK, THE RIVER, THUNDER ROAD
- BUFFALO SPRINGFIELD: FOR WHAT IS WORTH
- CAT STEVENS: THE FIRST CUT IS THE DEEPEST
- COLDPLAY: CLOCKS, SPEED OF SOUND, THE SCIENTIST
- CREEDENCE CLEARWATER REVIVAL: HAVE YOU EVER SEEN THE RAIN
- DAVID BOWIE: CHANGES, SPACE ODDITY, YOUNG AMERICANS
- DEEP PURPLE: SMOKE ON THE WATER
- DEREK AND THE DOMINOES: LAYLA
- DIRE STRAITS: SULTANS OF SWING, TELEGRAPH ROAD, TUNNEL OF LOVE
- BOB DYLAN: BLOWIN IN THE WIND, JUST LIKE A WOMAN, LIKE A ROLLING STONE
- ELTON JOHN: DONT LET THE SUN GO DOWN ON ME, YOUR SONG
- ELVIS COSTELLO: ALISON, PEACE LOVE AND UNDERSTANDING
- ELVIS PRESLEY: ALWAYS ON MY MIND, HEARTBREAK HOTEL, SUSPICIOUS MINDS
- ERIC CLAPTON: TEARS IN HEAVEN
- FLEETWOOD MAC: DREAMS, GO YOUR OWN WAY
- FRANZ FERDINAND: TAKE ME OUT, THE FALLEN
- GUNS AND ROSES: SWEET CHILD O MINE
- GREEN DAY: AMERICAN IDIOT, BASKET CASE, BOULEVARD OF BROKEN DREAMS
- INTERPOL: CMERE, NYC, SLOW HANDS
- JANIS JOPLIN: PIECE OF MY HEART
- JEFF BUCKLEY: GRACE, HALLELLUJAH
- JOY DIVISION: LOVE WILL TEAR US APART
- LED ZEPPELIN: STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN
- LEONARD COHEN: HALLELLUJAH
- LOU REED: PERFECT DAY, WALK ON THE WILD SIDE
- LOVE: ALONE AGAIN OR

[billiejoe605]

- MARK KNOPFLER: GOING HOME
- MARVIN GAYE: AIN'T NO MOUNTAIN HIGH ENOUGH, SEXUAL HEALING, WHAT'S GOING ON
- METALLICA: NOTHING ELSE MATTERS
- MICHAEL JACKSON: BEAT IT, BILLY JEAN
- MIKE OLDFIELD: TUBULAR BELLS
- MORRISSEY: EVERYDAY IS LIKE SUNDAY, SUEDEHEAD, THE FIRST OF THE GANG TO DIE
- MUDDY WATERS: HOOCHIE COOCHIE MAN
- MUSE: HYSTERIA, PLUG IN BABY, STOCKHOLM SYNDROME
- MY BLOODY VALENTINE: ONLY SHALLOW, SOMETIMES
- NEIL YOUNG: CINNAMON GIRL, HEART OF GOLD, ROCKIN' IN THE FREE WORLD
- NIRVANA: COME AS YOU ARE, LITHIUM, SMELLS LIKE TEEN SPIRIT
- OTIS REDDING: SITTIN' ON THE DOCK OF THE BAY, TRY A LITTLE TENDERNESS
- PETER GABRIEL: SECRET WORLD, SLEDGEHAMMER, SOLSBURY HILL
- PINK FLOYD: SHINE ON YOU CRAZY DIAMOND, TIME, WISH YOU WERE HERE
- PIXIES: HERE COMES YOUR MAN
- PRIMAL SCREAM: COUNTRY GIRL, LOADED
- PRINCE: PEACH, PURPLE RAIN
- QUEEN: BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY, CRAZY LITTLE THING CALLED LOVE, INNUENDO
- RADIOHEAD: AIRBAG, FAKE PLASTIC TREES, PARANOID ANDROID
- RAMONES: BLITZKRIEG BOP, I WANNA BE SEDATED, SHEENA IS A PUNKROCKER
- RED HOT: BLOOD SUGAR SEX MAGIK, OTHER SIDE, UNDER THE BRIDGE
- REM: EVERYBODY HURTS, IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT, THE ONE I LOVE
- ROBBIE WILLIAMS: ANGELS, COME UNDONE, FEEL
- ROLLING STONES: JUMPIN' JACK FLASH, PAINT IT BLACK, SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL
- SCISSOR SISTERS: I DONT FEEL LIKE DANCING, LAURA, TAKE YOUR MAMA OUT
- SEX PISTOLS: ANARCHY IN THE UK, GOD SAVE THE QUEEN, HOLIDAYS IN THE SUN
- SIMON AND GARFUNKEL: CECILIA, THE BOXER
- STONE ROSES: I AM THE RESURRECTION, I WANNA BE ADORED, MADE OF STONE
- SUPERTRAMP: CRIME OF THE CENTURY, DREAMER, SCHOOL

[billiejoe605]

- TALKING HEADS: LOVE FOR SALE, PSYCHO KILLER,
- TELEVISION: MARQUEE MOON, SEE NO EVIL, VENUS
- THE BEATLES: HERE COMES THE SUN, REVOLUTION, SGT. PEPPER'S LONELY HEARTS CLUB BAND
- THE CLASH: DEATH OR GLORY, REVOLUTION ROCK, WRONG'EM BOYO
- THE CURE: CLOSE TO ME, FASCINATION STREET, JUST LIKE HEAVEN
- THE DOORS: BREAK ON THROUGH, THE END,
- THE EAGLES: HOTEL CALIFORNIA
- THE JAM: THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT
- THE KINKS: LOLA, THE VILLAGE GREEN PRESERVATION SOCIETY, YOU REALLY GOT ME
- THE POLICE: ROXANNE, SO LONELY,
- THE SMITHS: BIGMOUTH STRIKES AGAIN, THE BOY WITH THE THORN IN HIS SIDE, THIS CHARMING MAN
- THE STOOGES: I WANNA BE YOUR DOG
- THE STROKES: JUICEBOX, LAST NITE, YOU ONLY LIVE ONCE
- THE SUPREMES: STOP! IN THE NAME OF LOVE
- THE VERVE: BITTERSWEET SYMPHONY, NO KNOCK ON MY DOOR
- THE WHITE STRIPES: DEAD LEAVES AND THE DIRTY GROUND, FELL IN LOVE WITH A GIRL, THE SAME BOY YOU HAVE ALWAYS KNOWN
- THE WHO: BABA O'RILEY, BEHIND BLUE EYES, WONT GET FOOLED AGAIN
- U2: PRIDE (IN THE NAME OF LOVE), SUNDAY BLOODY SUNDAY
- VAN MORRISON: ASTRAL WEEKS, BALLERINA, BROWN EYED GIRL
- VELVET UNDERGROUND: FEMME FATALE, HEROIN, SWEET JANE
- WEEZER: BUDDY HOLLY, ISLAND IN THE SUN, MY NAME IS JONAS

[caralladas76]

just in case you've realized, last posts come from my girlfriend using my excel file to give her votes... and watching them i realized i've forgotten 3 votes: janis joplin piece of my heart, the jam that's entertainment and cat stevens the first cut is the deepest.

And now i can say i feel like i'm done!! probably i've forgotten many songs, but i think i've said enough names, too.

i've been watching the list of 100 top-rated bands, and i can say it almost didn´t change. With some little variations, bands from 1 to 20 are the same, bands from 21 to 50 too and from 51 to 100 as well. Hence, i'm going to use TODAY'S "top-rated bands" list to filter all names given -must be around 800 so far- in order to get a bracket-easy list, and trying to give preference to bands on that list (but with a large list of band out of it too, dont worry rfnaples ;.D )

Anyway, while i'm trying to think a way we can arrange votes so we end up with a bracket-easy number of songs representative of what you`ve proposed, you can still give more names if you wish. Is there anyone else going to vote? The Tourist? Johnnyrocketfingers...?

We can settle a last date for votes at the end of this week, what do you think? After that date, i would propose the list and start voting.

Thanks to all that helped making this list and hope you enjoy the tournament. Regards.

[RFNAPLES]

Hopefully we will have more voters than the Best Albums of the 1960's Tournament! It had a range of only 4 to 14 votes per pairing. It was never clear to me when one round or pairing was supposed to end.

Not only will the number of voters and the included songs be important but so will be the pairings. Should we pair or cluster them by style, release year or decade, commercial success, band-rank, alpha order, randomly, etc? Is it sudden death or two strikes and you’re out, etc?
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[RFNAPLES]

I voted at various times for a total of 223 songs for inclusion in this contest. Here is a synopsis of what I voted for just in case anyone else needs some ideas for what to vote for before the contest begins.

Greatest Songs:

AC/DC-You Shook Me All Night Long
Aerosmith-Walk This Way
Al Green-Let's Stay Together-Tired of Being Alone
Arctic Monkeys-I Bet You Look Good on the Dancefloor
Aretha Franklin-Chain of Fools-I Say a Little Prayer-Respect

Beastie Boys-Fight for Your Right (To Party)-Intergalactic-Sabotage
Beck-Loser-Where It's At
Bee Gees-Stayin' Alive
Ben E. King-Stand by Me
Bill Haley and His Comets-(We're Gonna) Rock Around the Clock
Black Sabbath-Paranoid
Blur-Girls and Boys-Song 2
Bo Diddley-Bo Diddley-Who Do You Love
Bob Dylan-Like a Rolling Stone-Subterranean Homesick Blues-Tangled Up in Blue
Bob Marley and The Wailers-No Woman No Cry
Booker T. & The MG's-Green Onions
Bruce Springsteen-Born in the U.S.A.-Born to Run-Thunder Road
Buddy Holly-Peggy Sue
Buffalo Springfield-For What It's Worth

Carl Perkins-Blue Suede Shoes
Chic-Good Times-Le Freak
Chuck Berry-Johnny B. Goode-Maybellene
Coldplay-Yellow
Creedence Clearwater Revival-Bad Moon Rising-Fortunate Son-Proud Mary

David Bowie-Changes-Heroes-Space Oddity
Del Shannon-Runaway
Derek and The Dominos-Layla

Eddie Cochran-Summertime Blues
Elton John-Your Song
Elvis Presley-Heartbreak Hotel-Hound Dog-Suspicious Minds
Eminem-My Name Is-Stan

Fleetwood Mac-Go Your Own Way
Franz Ferdinand-Take Me Out

Gnarls Barkley-Crazy
Grandmaster Flash-White Lines (Don't Do It)-The Adventures of Grandmaster Flash on the Wheels of Steel-The Message
Guns N' Roses-Sweet Child O' Mine

Hank Williams-I'll Never Get Out of This World Alive-I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry-Your Cheatin' Heart

Ike and Tina Turner-River Deep Mountain High

James Brown-Get Up (I Feel Like Being a) Sex Machine-It's a Man's Man's Man's World-Papa's Got a Brand New Bag
Jerry Lee Lewis-Great Balls of Fire-Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin' On
John Lennon-Imagine-Instant Karma (We All Shine On)
Johnny Cash-Folsom Prison Blues-I Walk the Line-Ring of Fire
Joy Division-Love Will Tear Us Apart

LCD Soundsystem-All My Friends-Losing My Edge
Led Zeppelin-Rock and Roll-Stairway to Heaven-Whole Lotta Love
Little Richard-Good Golly Miss Molly-Long Tall Sally-Tutti Frutti
Lou Reed-Walk on the Wild Side
Love-Alone Again Or

Madonna-Into the Groove-Like a Prayer-Like a Virgin
Martha and The Vandellas-Dancing in the Street
Marvin Gaye-I Heard It Through the Grapevine-Sexual Healing-What's Going On
Massive Attack-Unfinished Sympathy
Metallica-Enter Sandman
Michael Jackson-Beat It-Billie Jean-Don't Stop Till You Get Enough
Missy Misdemeanor Elliott-Get Ur Freak On-Work It
Muddy Waters-Hoochie Coochie Man-Mannish Boy

New Order-Blue Monday
Nirvana-Heart Shaped Box-Smells Like Teen Spirit

Oasis-Live Forever-Wonderwall
Otis Redding-Sittin' on the Dock of the Bay-Try a Little Tenderness
OutKast-B. O. B. (Bombs Over Baghdad)-Hey Ya!-Ms. Jackson

Patti Smith-Gloria-Because the Night
Pearl Jam-Jeremy
Percy Sledge-When a Man Loves a Woman
Pink Floyd-See Emily Play
Pixies-Debaser-Monkey Gone to Heaven
Primal Scream-Higher Than the Sun-Loaded
Prince-Sign 'O' the Times-Little Red Corvette-When Doves Cry
Public Enemy-Bring the Noise-Fight the Power-Rebel Without a Pause
Pulp-Common People

Queen-Bohemian Rhapsody

R.E.M.-It's the End of the World As We Know It (And I Feel Fine)-Losing My Religion-Radio Free Europe
Radiohead-Creep-Fake Plastic Trees-Paranoid Android
Ramones-Blitzkrieg Bop-Sheena Is a Punkrocker
Ray Charles-Georgia on My Mind-What'd I Say
Red Hot Chili Peppers-Under the Bridge
Roy Orbison-Crying-Oh, Pretty Woman-Only the Lonely

Sam Cooke-A Change Is Gonna Come-You Send Me
Sex Pistols-Anarchy in the U.K.-God Save the Queen-Pretty Vacant
Simon and Garfunkel-Bridge Over Troubled Water-The Sound of Silence
Sly and the Family Stone-Dance to the Music-Everyday People-Thank You (Falettime Be Mice Elf Again)
Smokey Robinson and The Miracles-The Tears of a Clown-The Tracks of My Tears
Sonic Youth-Teen Age Riot
Stevie Wonder-Living for the City-Superstition

Talking Heads-Once in a Lifetime
Television-Marquee Moon
The Animals-House of the Rising Sun
The Band-The Weight
The Beach Boys-Don't Worry Baby-God Only Knows-Good Vibrations
The Beatles-A Day in the Life-I Want to Hold Your Hand-Strawberry Fields Forever
The Byrds-Eight Miles High-Mr. Tambourine Man
The Clash-(White Man) In Hammersmith Palais-Complete Control-London Calling
The Crickets-That'll Be the Day
The Crystals-Da Doo Ron Ron-He's a Rebel
The Cure-Just Like Heaven
The Doors-Light My Fire
The Eagles-Hotel California
The Everly Brothers-All I Have to Do Is Dream-Bye Bye Love-Cathy's Clown
The Four Tops-Reach Out (I'll Be There)
The Jackson 5-I Want You Back
The Jam-Down in the Tubestation at Midnight-Going Underground
The Jimi Hendrix Experience-All Along the Watchtower-Purple Haze-Voodoo Chile (Slight Return)
The Kingsmen-Louie Louie
The Kinks-Waterloo Sunset-You Really Got Me
The Mamas and the Papas-California Dreamin'
The Police-Every Breath You Take-Roxanne
The Rolling Stones-(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction-Jumpin' Jack Flash-Sympathy for the Devil
The Ronettes-Be My Baby
The Smiths-How Soon Is Now?-There Is a Light That Never Goes Out-This Charming Man
The Specials-Ghost Town
The Stone Roses-Fools Gold
The Stooges-I Wanna Be Your Dog
The Supremes-Stop! In the Name of Love-Where Did Our Love Go
The Temptations-Just My Imagination (Running Away with Me)-My Girl-Papa Was a Rolling Stone
The Velvet Underground-Heroin-I'm Waiting for the Man
The Verve-Bitter Sweet Symphony
The White Stripes-Fell in Love with a Girl-Seven Nation Army
The Who-I Can't Explain-My Generation-Won't Get Fooled Again
TLC-No Scrubs-Waterfalls

U2-One-Pride (In the Name of Love)-Sunday Bloody Sunday

Van Morrison-Brown Eyed Girl

Wilson Pickett-In the Midnight Hour
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[caralladas76]

Well, about how many people are going to participate, i hope it's going to be more than rfnaples, maxxy, nowhereman and me, which are the ones that proposed most of the songs here!! With 14 votes per pairing i would be more than happy, it seems that in other tournaments we vote the "usual" people you can find quite oftenly at the forums. Anyway, i would like to invite to anyone who read this to vote for our fav song of all times, please!!!

Since number of votes are going to variate, we can fix a standard period of time to consider a pairing open, like 2 or 3 days, for example. Finally, i was thinking about making it "sudden death", but we can make it "two strikes and out", in which case we don't need to make it "bracket easy". It would be helpful, what do you think?

(hope i find more answers than rfnaples... )

[RFNAPLES]

I prefer the double-elimination format which has some advantages over the single-elimination format, most notably the fact that third and fourth places can be determined without the use of a consolation or "classification" match involving two songs that have already been eliminated from winning the championship. Additionally, in a double-elimination format better songs are likely to progress further in the tournament. Suppose in a single-elimination tournament the best song goes against the second best song in the first round - the second best song will be eliminated right away, having only had one chance. Then, a more mediocre song with a better seeding could potentially win several matches, go against the best song in the finals, and come away with second place. (Usually, good seeding would help avoid this, but it is an issue nonetheless.) A double-elimination tournament would allow the second best song to keep winning (in the loser's bracket) and eventually work its way back up to its rightful position of second place.

As for the number of days pairings should remain open, I would allow a minimum of 3 to 5 days. This would allow for a discovery period and limited internet access. While we want the contest to end in a timely fashion, we also want voters for representative results.
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[caralladas76]

OK People, we're done. Seems nobody else has any songs to propose, so NO MORE SONGS ALLOWED.


After long consideration... trying to filter and match songs in some way we can say the list is both "manageable" but "representative", and trying to make a contest that gives an "credible" result (anyway, it will be as much as credible as more of us participate...), this is how i propose to make it:


I.- 314 songs are classified straight on to the BEST EVER SONG CONTEST. 242 come from Top100 bands, 72 come from the rest. I have already selected the names, based on votes (all of them received at list 2 votes from 2 different people)

II.- We'll get another 59 songs for the contest, through a previous round by pairing 118 songs and selecting them by "sudden death". Winners will be added to the 314 songs' list. All this songs come from Top100 bands, and this round is used so we can select songs from bands on the Top100 when songs were voted just once.

III.- Finally, we'll get another 67 songs for the final contest, by a DOUBLE round also by "sudden death". Here i paired 268 songs not considered on steps I.- or II.-, and most of them -not all- come from bands out of Top100. Winners after the 2 rounds will be added to the DEFINITIVE LIST.



DEFINITIVE LIST will be composed, hence, by 314+59+67 = 440 songs. And then, we'll start the tournament, as RFNAPLES proposed, by DOUBLE ELIMINATION or "two strikes and out" process.


I didn't classified songs by decade, style, etc., since it would be a mess and also would (probably) lead to argument. What i proposed instead was to separate 440 songs on DEFINITIVE LIST on 4 different groups of 110 songs each, topped by songs voted the most so far. Just for your information, these will be the songs on top on the 4 groups:

GROUP A: HEROIN, ANARCHY IN THE UK, MARQUEE MOON, SMELLS LIKE TEEN SPIRIT, HIGHER THAN THE SUN, SITTIN' ON THE DOCK OF THE BAY, STOP! IN THE NAME OF LOVE

GROUP B: THUNDER ROAD, BABA O'RILEY, NO WOMAN NO CRY, SYMPATHY FOR THE DEVIL, I SAY A LITTLE PRAYER, MOVIN ON UP
SUSPICIOUS MINDS

GROUP C: ALONE AGAIN OR, BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY, PARANOID ANDROID, WONT GET FOOLED AGAIN, I'LL COME RUNNING TO TIE YOUR SHOES, SOLSBURY HILL, THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT

GROUP D: RESPECT, FAKE PLASTIC TREES, PSYCHO KILLER, ALISON, LAYLA, STAND BY ME, WATERLOO SUNSET


When we know the songs selected on previous rounds II.- and III.-, we'll start the "Double-elimination" Tournament amongst songs on each group and, when the number of surviving songs is reduced after several rounds, the groups will be merged and we'll continue the "double-elimination" contest amongst all songs until we get the winner.


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Just two more considerations. As you may see, I tried to include as many songs as possible on the tournament, so just a few (must be just around 20 songs) won't have the chance to participate, but ALL OF THEM are songs voted just once from bands that have at list 2 songs on list I.- (songs classified directly). This way i think everyone should feel represented.

Finally, as you can imagine, trying to process all this information is quite a mess, so if you find any mistakes, my appologies. i tried to do my best!!