Can You Still call Kanye west a mainstream singer?

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DLGGLD wrote:
Bruh, he's been 'in' since '01


In the hipster crowd? Nah, I didn't start seeing people make a big deal about him in all of my years on message boards (since 2001) until '09.
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Gowienczyk wrote:
In the hipster crowd? Nah, I didn't start seeing people make a big deal about him in all of my years on message boards (since 2001) until '09.


I don't know about on RYM, but among friends, the radio, articles, etc. he's been huge since "Slow Jamz" was released. People were going bananas over The College Dropout (granted, not as much as over My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, at least that I've seen).
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Even in the alternative crowd? I didn't see much excitement over The College Dropout personally among that crowd. But maybe I'm not the internet savant I think I am either. ๐Ÿ˜œ
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Yeezus seems to get an "experimental" tag thrown at it from a lot of people (e.g. RYM lists it as solely being "experimental hip hop", while MBDTF is listed as being "hip hop" and "pop rap"). I fail to see where the experiments are to be found. If there's something experimental about Kanye's rapping and lyrics that doesn't fit into mainstream music, I'd like to know. Sounds like his usual stuff to me

As for the beats, they are more distorted than on his previous stuff, but ain't that exactly a mainstream thing right now? I think his beats has a brostep influence, which is definitely a mainstream thing currently. I saw a Rihanna concert last week at a festival, and there were lots of passages with hard and distorted beats. And Chase & Status, who probably gathered the festival's biggest crowd, essentially plays pop music with distorted beats (at least they did live, don't really know their recorded stuff). Many mainstream artists seems to incorporate these kinds of beats into their music right now, and Kanye West follows this mainstream trend (Kanye's beats aren't downright brostep, but I definitely hear the influence). Most of the songs off Yeezus also has conventional pop structures and catchy hooks. To me, Yeezus is simply a (damn good) modern pop album, and definitely mainstream

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