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BrandonMeow wrote:
K, so there are some touchingly beautiful and sad moments on this album akin to the first track (mostly songs which Mecca mentioned) but then those bluesy sounding guitar singy songs aren't my cuppa tea. I don't see what is psychedelic about them...More bluesy to me, though I'm not as educated you guys on music, it just doesn't sound anything like my idea of psychedelic. So yeah, the less rock oriented parts are awesome, the rock oriented parts are blagh.


then you should definitely check out Let It Come Down. it's way way less bluesy.

psychedelia can be tough to pin down but it's roots are mostly in blues rock. with Spiritualized, there are moments of sprawling, disorienting noise, and they use a lot of hypnotic drone at times too.
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meccalecca wrote:
psychedelia can be tough to pin down but it's roots are mostly in blues rock.


I find it hard to agree here. Psychedelia is more of a feeling than a sound, and I think trying to define it as otherwise creates unnecessarily narrow boundaries for what is essentially a drug-informed counter-cultural movement that, by its very nature, should be boundary-less. I would classify a lot of electronic music as psychedelic, despite the fact that it often has no basis whatsoever in blues rock. 808 State are psychedelic as fuck, but they aren't part of a lineage that includes Robert Johnson. Psychedelia's roots are in drugs, not in any one type of music, and a couple of garage or blues rock tropes do not psychedelia make. That said, people can find psychedelia in anything. I've seen some pretty psychedelic cups of tea in my time. Not whilst sober, mind.
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lethalnezzle wrote:
I find it hard to agree here. Psychedelia is more of a feeling than a sound, and I think trying to define it as otherwise creates unnecessarily narrow boundaries for what is essentially a drug-informed counter-cultural movement that, by its very nature, should be boundary-less. I would classify a lot of electronic music as psychedelic, despite the fact that it often has no basis whatsoever in blues rock. 808 State are psychedelic as fuck, but they aren't part of a lineage that includes Robert Johnson. Psychedelia's roots are in drugs, not in any one type of music, and a couple of garage or blues rock tropes do not psychedelia make. That said, people can find psychedelia in anything. I've seen some pretty psychedelic cups of tea in my time. Not whilst sober, mind.


I totally agree. Psychedelia's roots are in blues, only because that's where rock music was at the time. So bands like Pink Floyd, Pretty Things, Tomorrow, 13th Floor Elevators were just transforming the blues rock of the time into something else. But it instantly became way more than that, since bands like the Beatles and Kaleidoscope were adding in the folk and Indian influences. Silver Apples and some others added electronics to the mix early on too, so it's all pretty open.

Was listening to Broadcast's Ha Ha Sound earlier and that album could definitely be called psychedelic, while having no roots in blues.
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spiritualized have done remarkably little wrong in their career.

This.
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