Hi all BEA users. I always appreciated your musical taste, and appreciated your musical "Knowledge" even more. as you can see from my chart, i do not know a high number of artists. So i wanted to ask you to do a favor for me and give me some recommendations based on my taste, because I really believe most of you listen to a wide variety of music and have a massive knowledge. Thank you all.
Hi all BEA users. I always appreciated your musical taste, and appreciated your musical "Knowledge" even more. as you can see from my chart, i do not know a high number of artists. So i wanted to ask you to do a favor for me and give me some recommendations based on my taste, because I really believe most of you listen to a wide variety of music and have a massive knowledge. Thank you all.
Hi all BEA users. I always appreciated your musical taste, and appreciated your musical "Knowledge" even more. as you can see from my chart, i do not know a high number of artists. So i wanted to ask you to do a favor for me and give me some recommendations based on my taste, because I really believe most of you listen to a wide variety of music and have a massive knowledge. Thank you all.
Hey Bro, I really like the changes you've made to your chart, especially the early Grimes at the top 😄 👏
Anyway, it seems like you mostly love standard indie rock and quasi-sophisticated electronic music. I assume you got most of your current favorites from places like Pitchfork, so based on my limited knowledge of this sort of music, I think you can love:
I still don't understand any of this but hey rock on with whatever gets ya rocking.
My hipster is a little rusty, but I may be able to help out a bit here.
Applerill wrote:
You should make an album, Tyler. I think it could be really good, even if you don't believe in the democratization of art like the rest of us.
"Make an album, bro. Shitty music is good music."
permafrost wrote:
i wasn't aware that the democratization of art entailed making "hurr durr it's silly that the white man with the funny accent is doin' the thuggin' hippity hop!" trope that's been dull and more than a little racist (against the progenitors of the genre, before you misread this and give me a Meaghan Garvey article about reverse racism) for like the thirty five years since it started. but that seems to be what you're saying with most of your ratings, since the best jazz musician was apparently the white guy who made it in vogue for daytime sunny radio station listeners (Kenny G) and your favorite crunk artists are brokeNCYDE, who wholesale destroy a very important font of black resistance for white hedonism.
"Your taste in music means you're a boring racist."
Applerill wrote:
Woah Woah Woah, I didn't mean any of that as an attack on you. I just thought that democratization of art would be one reason to not want to make an album (as in, "I have no talent in music, and I should leave it to those who do"). It's fine to have that belief, but I think you'd make really good BEAcore.
I actually like Soulja Boy a lot more as an artist than Brokencyde (the latter who I can really say to enjoy ironically in the literary sense, since I by no means endorse their ideology), and I like Pharaoh Sanders more than Kenny G (and Grover Washington and George Benson are really close in the world of smooth jazz).
"I'm not saying you suck, I just thought you might be worried about sucking. I like music made by black people, so I'm not a racist."
permafrost wrote:
though groups like The Shaggs accomplished things despite their lack of technical ability, such things were accomplished because of an earnestness that is completely lacking in the dime-a-dozen irony-meme-fuqboi Bandcamp mixtapes that come out over and over and over again. until i have an earnest artistic statement to release, i'm not going to hop on the bandwagon of sampling five albums from a meme genre and then making some snarky comments about them into a microphone in a weird voice for the delight of teenagers on the internet.
"Most people who suck make shitty music to laugh at. I don't want to make an album."
Applerill wrote:
BEAcore doesn't have to be "ironic", Satie. Look at Hayden's early work. It was able to be crazy and experimental while at the same time being completely genuine at its core 😄
Maybe you could make some sort of Polly Bradfield EDM mix. I'd love that.
(AND SUEDESUEDE'S NEW SINGLE IS AMAZING GUYS!!! CHECK IT OUT!!!)
"I enjoy some music made by BEA members without laughing at it."
permafrost wrote:
yeah just to clarify i don't take issue with people just enjoying the album. why would i? i just think the declaration of it as serious social commentary is completely unfounded, and i do have to admit that my head almost corkscrews off my neck from the eyerolling that ensues at most of the jokes on the record and from its fans. not that that latter sentiment is much more than crotchety annoyance.
"I don't mind if other people like [Fantano's mixtape], I just think it's fluff and it annoys me. Part of that is me being an asshole, though."
Applerill wrote:
I dunno, I definitely loved his early singles just for how fun his flow was (and the fact that Cal as a character was so likable and unpretentious, often a lot more than Anthony himself), but that second half of the album (particularly the ending) really hit me hard from a personal standpoint. It definitely seems like Anthony Fantano is not a fan of "meme rap", and you can feel his frustration in the way the other characters had such exaggerated responses to his persona like he was in Mulholland Drive. Even in terms of the casual racism and misogyny in meme rap was something that Fantano was definitely commenting on with the Pink Guy appearance and use of rap tropes like the Apple Store drug bust. The one problem I have with the album, though, is that Anthony's one reason for not liking this music is because it's "just not good", which sounds like crazy objective-music talk to me.
In terms of why I like it, I like to think of it as a Greek tragedy, about an untalented guy who makes art that's fun and likeable, but causes him to be ostracized from society because it's not "good". The story of modern pop music is largely about that, and I think anyone who creates some sort of art as a hobby can empathize with Cal's situation. What struggling artist hasn't wanted his friends to see his work, but have them not willing to give it a chance? I don't know if that interpretation fits with what Anthony wanted, but for all the reasons you've hinted at for not liking him, that explains why I have to use intentional fallacy in the same way I did with I'm Not a Fan. This is an album about some really scary stuff, and even more than the fun, mostly innocent singles, this is why it's essential.
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permafrost wrote:
just because you use the words "Greek tragedy" doesn't mean that you didn't just call Internet friends potentially not being interested in what you made while you were dicking around on a computer "really scary stuff." like, you're clearly just inflating your language intentionally or else have an appallingly narrow vision of what terrors exist in the world. perhaps if you listened to some hip hop that wasn't made by Cal Chuchesta for a moment, you could hear about some "really scary stuff." just a thought.
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