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meccalecca
Voice of Reason
Gender: Male
Location: The Land of Enchantment 
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Norman Bates
Gender: Male
Age: 53
Location: Paris, France 
- #182
- Posted: 02/24/2016 11:29
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- Speaking of cohesion, what really pulls the album together is the woozy, melancholy, synthetic soul vibe I'm hearing on most of these tracks. Although, looking at the comments here and elsewhere, I feel like I'm the only one.
- Everyone will mention the Arthur Russell ('30 Hours') and Sister Nancy ('Famous') samples, but the funnest and most surprising sample was that brief segment of Section 25 at the end of 'FML'.
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Agreed on both counts.
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Applerill
Autistic Princess <3
Gender: Female
Age: 32
Location: Chicago 
- #183
- Posted: 02/24/2016 13:25
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I definitely do not think it's a snooze, but that pair of Quietus pieces make me wonder if he's really the rap game Norman Mailer or something. Here are some excerpts from the initial review:
| Quote: | Kanye West, whose own personal brand - enhanced on a weekly basis this year - is performative megalomania with a twist of tortured artist. His definition of greatness tends to the conservative: artistic quality as objectively measured by his relationship to the ossified critical canon and acceptance by establishment institutions such as the Grammys.....
... He comes across not as a genius colossus, but a small-minded man curiously obsessed with the sex lives of the women in and out of his life. "My ex says she gave me the best years of her life / I saw a recent picture of her, I guess she was right," he sneers pettily on '30 Hours'. West's clickbait-friendly jab at Taylor Swift may have garnered headlines, but his fixation on his exes, both on record and on Twitter, is distinctly Swiftian in nature...
...Elsewhere, there's outright contempt for women for - among other things - wearing spray tan, buying Christian Louboutins and bleaching their assholes. This is less shifting the paradigm, as he claims a couple of lines later, as upholding the status quo; less a complicated artist wrestling with complex thoughts as quotidian locker-room talk and tiresome fragile masculinity...
....West may be inappropriate and given to TMI, but he's a fundamentally conservative figure, taking clichรฉs as fundamental even when it comes to his own persona. "Name one genius that isn't crazy," he raps; where to start? The myth of the tortured artist has been long debunked, and West says nothing new about it - or about celebrity, wealth, sexuality or any of his pet topics...
...Who is the kind of person inspired by Kanye West? "I have been a tremendous fan of your music for many years. Specifically, the album The College Dropout inspired me to succeed at a young age," read a missive that he received on the day of the Yeezy 3 fashion show that doubled as the album launch. It was from pharma-bro villain Martin Shkreli, and it was an offer to buy The Life Of Pablo purely in order to prevent anyone else from hearing it... |
What do you all think of this? I don't know what to think of this, but the argumentation is certainly interesting.
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WindowAbove
Gender: Male
Age: 27
Location: Iowa 
- #184
- Posted: 02/24/2016 15:58
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OP change title it's not Swish also the album is great, my fifth or sixth favorite Yeezy album
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RockyRaccoon
Is it solipsistic in here or is it just me?
Gender: Male
Age: 35
Location: Maryland 
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Hayden
Location: Vietnam 
- #186
- Posted: 02/25/2016 00:18
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Not sure if I believe him at this point, but I'd be cool with it. I feel like he has a few ideas bottled up and couldn't quite get them through with TLOP. _________________ Doubles & Conch
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- #187
- Posted: 02/25/2016 00:21
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I thought TLOP was pretty alright at best and yet I'm still really excited over the prospect of a new album. What is Ye's secret
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benpaco
Who's gonna watch you die?
Age: 28
Location: Missouri 
- #188
- Posted: 02/25/2016 01:34
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| dividesbyzero wrote: | | I thought TLOP was pretty alright at best and yet I'm still really excited over the prospect of a new album. What is Ye's secret |
Same reason people went to see Lady in the Water even after The Village
Anywho yeah hopefully that won't be a TIDAL exclusive and I'll actually check it out, but maybe Lupe's final trilogy out this year + Brand New's (likely final) album will be more than enough listening for me. _________________
. . . 2016 . . . 2015 . . .
"While I'm alive, I'll make tiny changes to Earth" - Frightened Rabbit
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craola
crayon master
Location: pdx 
- #189
- Posted: 02/25/2016 02:10
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| benpaco wrote: | | Same reason people went to see Lady in the Water even after The Village. |
i am curious. i don't understand the hate for either of these. sure, they're not OMG GREATEST FILM EVER, but they're not all that bad either. did people just want more surprise ending twists a la sixth sense? _________________ follow me on the bandcamp.
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Anti
I Dream of Drone
Age: 30
Location: Somewhere in Ohio 
- #190
- Posted: 02/25/2016 05:44
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So are we gonna see the "40 tracks" with either Kendrick, Drake, Future, and/or Young Thug?
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