As for what my favorites/must listens are I do have a chart that serves such a purpose, but I don't exactly just want to keep plugging my own charts in your diaries.
There's a lot on your chart that from a "musicology" perspective/proper cultural representation of the 80s I 100% agree with. Some things that I 100% agree with from a personal perspective and then some albums I agree are culturally significant, but just don't do it for me... and that's really with most of those at listening to once. That's one area I struggle with... dismissing an album before giving it a chance vs agreeing with my first take on it.
Also lots of stuff I haven't checked out yet, so thanks!
And no, I welcome your feedback.
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And I guess it's limited resources. I really don't have the time to listen to 7000 albums anytime soon, but 1400 seems a bit more doable for me (200 from each decade).
Just keep reminding yourself, there's no deadline in regards to listening to music. if you miss something this time through, it's certainly not the end. We can't hear everything.
But if you're gonna spend a bunch of time listening to music from the 80s. I can't recommend this one enough. There's very few, if any, albums you'll hear along this journey that will sound anything like this, and the good thing is that it's also not a challenging record.
Oh for sure... (on the time thing) I guess I want to finish my project within the next few months or so. I totally am willing/wanting to do this all over again sometime in my life. I did it back in 2012/2013 as my very juvenile attempt (musical maturity, not age) and am glad with my "growth" from that time. I feel I have much more of a grasp (and access) to more music than before.
I know there's a lot of hate for Spotify, but it is SO nice to not be spending time getting files in the right formats/proper pictures for the album cover, etc., on top of having to find a download for an album just to check it out... and then deleting it because you only have so much space... etc. I will also say there's no way I'd be able to educate myself/listen to all of this without it. I'd probably give up.
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Spotify is a godsend for even me, lol. I used to spend hours upon hours on blogs and communities but now most of my time is on spotify. It's kind of complacent of me, but it's accessible and the database is great.
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Spotify is a godsend for even me, lol. I used to spend hours upon hours on blogs and communities but now most of my time is on spotify. It's kind of complacent of me, but it's accessible and the database is great.
Indeed. It in of itself is a decent music finder, etc.
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I'm very sad with myself... Doolittle is currently ranked 44 for me for the decade. I'm rating 11 out of 15 songs above an 80 (with 4 100s), but there are 4 songs on that album that kinda ruin it for me.
So the younger self would immaturely react and say how dare you... but nowadays I'm like... look, if you put crappy songs on your record... it's going to get knocked down. But I'm almost embarrassed to update my 80s chart... I have like Michael Jackson rated higher TWICE, before doolittle... 🫢🫢🤣🤣
Again my younger self would totally slap myself in the face or not have the guts to realize... hey Michael Jackson was a quality performer (I would have laughed at his girl voice and say dancing is for girls, and that pop music is for corporate sluts) with great songs and really was more of a cultural influence than the Pixies... And then you have to factor in that as much as I like the YouTube video of John Goodman yelling, mad men yelling just... well... only goes so far, especially when the aesthetic is grating on purpose. Don't get me wrong, I dig that aesthetic sometimes... but I don't know... it just seems limited. Emotional responses are easily forgotten, but cognitive responses some how resonate longer I suppose... unless you are still going through puberty?
I do realize how hard it is to identify songs that are good/bad though (when you are writing music). Some songs you think are crap turn into your best songs and your best songs sometimes quickly become mediocre. I get that... but I think from a music critic side (not that I even think of myself as such, I barely know what a genre is), I feel that it is important to consider those shitty songs as something to dock on an album. It maybe isn't fair, but it is reality (well my reality, hahaha).
Same thing happened with me last decade with The Wall, London Calling, and Exile on Main St., my younger self would put those albums in the top 10 for sure.
One key area I'm not taking into account with these album rankings this time around is maybe a few points added or docked for having an overall holistic effect. Right now it's just how'd the albums individual songs stack up. I think this would maybe help those three albums... but then again that's really subjective (not that I believe my endeavors aren't) in the sense that Exile and London Calling don't have the holistic feel of the Wall, and that's maybe not fair? idk... just thinking out loud.
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I'm very sad with myself... Doolittle is currently ranked 44 for me for the decade. I'm rating 11 out of 15 songs above an 80 (with 4 100s), but there are 4 songs on that album that kinda ruin it for me.
Oh man, I love every single track on Doolittle, but let me guess which 4 songs could possibly ruin it for you: I'd go for Silver, No. 13 Baby, I Bleed and Mr. Grieves.
sethmadsen wrote:
But I'm almost embarrassed to update my 80s chart... I have like Michael Jackson rated higher TWICE, before doolittle...
See, perhaps maths does not work in this case...
sethmadsen wrote:
Michael Jackson was a quality performer (I would have laughed at his girl voice and say dancing is for girls, and that pop music is for corporate sluts) with great songs and really was more of a cultural influence than the Pixies
Indeed Jacko was a great performer and indeed he had more cultural influence than Pixies, and more than most of other artists ever. But then, so what ? What does this fact mean to you ? Does Jacko do anything to you ? Is it more than Pixies ever did ? Does Smooth Criminal give you the same level of pleasure/emotion/goosebumps as, say, Debaser ? And isn't an album with 11 out of 15 highlights better than another one filled with consistently tolerable songs ?
sethmadsen wrote:
One key area I'm not taking into account with these album rankings this time around is maybe a few points added or docked for having an overall holistic effect. Right now it's just how'd the albums individual songs stack up. I think this would maybe help those three albums... but then again that's really subjective (not that I believe my endeavors aren't) in the sense that Exile and London Calling don't have the holistic feel of the Wall, and that's maybe not fair? idk... just thinking out loud.
Music has a lot to do with maths on the level of structure, but I'm afraid you might always be at a loss when trying to apply straightforward calculations to the way you receive music. Do not get obsessed with trying to reach some objective results here, they're unattainable. If you feel you enjoy Doolittle more than Thriller, then fuck maths and put it higher on your chart. Just thinking out loud, too 😉 _________________ Always shouts out something obscene
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Music has a lot to do with maths on the level of structure, but I'm afraid you might always be at a loss when trying to apply straightforward calculations to the way you receive music. Do not get obsessed with trying to reach some objective results here, they're unattainable. If you feel you enjoy Doolittle more than Thriller, then fuck maths and put it higher on your chart. Just thinking out loud, too ;)
So true.
Plus, as much as I love Doolittle, Thriller is a rather excellent album and certainly nothing to be ashamed of enjoying. _________________ http://jonnyleather.com
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