Anyone have any insight on why they like one over the other more?
For me, I was able to connect with the songwriting and musical landscapes way better with the self titled album.
Slowdive has beautiful musical landscapes indeed, but the songwriting..
Do you feel it's not great compared to other artists or other Slowdive albums like Souvaki?
What I meant wasn't that I think Slowdive are fantastic songwriters (I don't think I could really say that, not that they are bad, but definitely not top 20 songwriters of all time or whatever), rather that the songwriting seemed much better on their self titled album than Souvaki. Of course there's a bunch of people who disagree with me, but I'd love some context to an album I've yet to understand. Yes Souvaki is a classic shoegaze album... but is it any good and, if so, what attracts you to it?
I was talking of Slowdive in general. I mean, this summer, on the beach, at sunset, will people play some Slowdive song with a guitar around the campfire ? : ) Whereas I know a few MBV or Ride songs suitable for that.
I like Slowdive because of their classic shoegaze sound. That scene really invented a very distinctive sound and this alone is an achievement. But it's even better if you have tunes.
I completely disagree, almost half the songs from Souvlaki could still be good songs in a stripped down setting with just an acoustic guitar, whereas I don't think any song from Loveless could be good if you played it with an acoustic. _________________ All time
i think we have to look at those iconic shoegaze albums contextually with the time they came out in.
but personally, the songwriting--the soundscapes particularly are just more realized and most certainly less repetitive and recycled. this kind of dream pop/shoegaze middle ground is about the atmosphere, not the OOMPH of the guitar tones. the self-titled 2017 album is not bad, mind you, its just something that shoegaze bands have emulated for over twenty years; people who are familiar with the genre have heard them a thousand times. the only i could imagine someone things the self-titled has a leg up is someone who really doesn't care about shoegaze all that much or hasn't followed it very extensively because everything on soulvaki is just like... more delicate; it's more carefully crafted beyond the simpler approach. soulvaki is more patient, more intricate.
On the topic of preferring other Slowdive albums to Souvlaki, am I crazy for thinking this is their best??
Pygmalion by Slowdive
It may lean heavily on Talk Talk (RIP Mark Hollis) but since Laughing Stock and Spirit Of Eden are two of my favourite albums it's unsurprising I'd be a fan, but surely the codas of tracks like J's Heaven and Blue Skied An' Clear have some of the band's best moments?
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Slowdive has beautiful musical landscapes indeed, but the songwriting..
... and on the topic of songwriting All Of Us is a gorgeous cut that is nearly acoustic to begin with, if you want an example of brilliant songwriting.
I saw them live in 2017 (I think I wrote about it in the concert thread) and they were amazing. Any track they played from any of there albums held there own. Sound quality was incredible and the music was huge, enveloping. I actually like "Just For A Day" the best. I think it has more of a post rock vibe than the others, and it was released before Bark Psychosis' "Hex".
I agree with whoever said it that Pygmalion is their best. Then Souvlaki. _________________ 2021 in full effect. Come drop me some recs. Y'all know what I like.
Anyone have any insight on why they like one over the other more?
For me, I was able to connect with the songwriting and musical landscapes way better with the self titled album.
Slowdive has beautiful musical landscapes indeed, but the songwriting..
Do you feel it's not great compared to other artists or other Slowdive albums like Souvaki?
What I meant wasn't that I think Slowdive are fantastic songwriters (I don't think I could really say that, not that they are bad, but definitely not top 20 songwriters of all time or whatever), rather that the songwriting seemed much better on their self titled album than Souvaki. Of course there's a bunch of people who disagree with me, but I'd love some context to an album I've yet to understand. Yes Souvaki is a classic shoegaze album... but is it any good and, if so, what attracts you to it?
I was talking of Slowdive in general. I mean, this summer, on the beach, at sunset, will people play some Slowdive song with a guitar around the campfire ? : ) Whereas I know a few MBV or Ride songs suitable for that.
I like Slowdive because of their classic shoegaze sound. That scene really invented a very distinctive sound and this alone is an achievement. But it's even better if you have tunes.
I completely disagree, almost half the songs from Souvlaki could still be good songs in a stripped down setting with just an acoustic guitar, whereas I don't think any song from Loveless could be good if you played it with an acoustic.
From experience, "When You Sleep" sounds awesome on an acoustic, but... _________________ It's easier to say "I love you," than "Yours, sincerely," I suppose
Anyone have any insight on why they like one over the other more?
For me, I was able to connect with the songwriting and musical landscapes way better with the self titled album.
Slowdive has beautiful musical landscapes indeed, but the songwriting..
Do you feel it's not great compared to other artists or other Slowdive albums like Souvaki?
What I meant wasn't that I think Slowdive are fantastic songwriters (I don't think I could really say that, not that they are bad, but definitely not top 20 songwriters of all time or whatever), rather that the songwriting seemed much better on their self titled album than Souvaki. Of course there's a bunch of people who disagree with me, but I'd love some context to an album I've yet to understand. Yes Souvaki is a classic shoegaze album... but is it any good and, if so, what attracts you to it?
I was talking of Slowdive in general. I mean, this summer, on the beach, at sunset, will people play some Slowdive song with a guitar around the campfire ? : ) Whereas I know a few MBV or Ride songs suitable for that.
I like Slowdive because of their classic shoegaze sound. That scene really invented a very distinctive sound and this alone is an achievement. But it's even better if you have tunes.
I completely disagree, almost half the songs from Souvlaki could still be good songs in a stripped down setting with just an acoustic guitar, whereas I don't think any song from Loveless could be good if you played it with an acoustic.
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