Better overall 100: BEA vs RYM? - Music - Forums : Best Ever Albums

LedZep

RYM one is significantly more interesting. I don't really like the top 2 of that chart. Not that I have anything against OK Computer or TPAB, both are my faves, but their placement as the best 2 albums of all time is... not ideal in my mind. Of course, BEA also has OK Computer at number 1. Other than that, RYM has a much more diverse and fun (and plain better imo) top 100.

The second part of this is "how accurate are they". And my answer is that nothing is accurate when it comes to "best" albums. I guess BEA's system of ranking popularity over ratings better reflects the community's taste, but both of those sites are still small communities of dedicated music listeners. So, not sure if ranking popular stuff higher even matters.

Some interesting, cool or maybe perplexing (to me) placements.

BEA
In rainbows #7
The bends #22
Is this it #23
Rumours #24
The suburbs #44
Yankee hotel foxtrot #48
Weezer blue #75
A moon shaped pool #79
Magical mystery tour #85
Sound of silver #92
For emma forever ago #98
A night at the opera #100

RYM
TPAB #2
Loveless #6
In rainbows #10
Red #24
Long season #35
Vespertine #37
Otokotachi no wakare #43
Led zeppelin 4 #45
The glow pt. 2 #47
Endtroducing #52
The money store #56
Atrocity exhibition #58
Soundtracks for the blind #69
Fall's peel sessions #91
Igor #94
Deathcounsciousness #95
Symbolic #98

Looking at it now, there's far more negative (maybe more weird than negative really, I like most of those albums anyway) surprises on BEA's chart than the RYM one which is 50/50 on positive and negative surprises.
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theblueboy

LedZep wrote:

RYM one is significantly more interesting. I don't really like the top 2 of that chart. Not that I have anything against OK Computer or TPAB, both are my faves, but their placement as the best 2 albums of all time is... not ideal in my mind. Of course, BEA also has OK Computer at number 1. Other than that, RYM has a much more diverse and fun (and plain better imo) top 100.

The second part of this is "how accurate are they". And my answer is that nothing is accurate when it comes to "best" albums. I guess BEA's system of ranking popularity over ratings better reflects the community's taste, but both of those sites are still small communities of dedicated music listeners. So, not sure if ranking popular stuff higher even matters.

Some interesting, cool or maybe perplexing (to me) placements.

BEA
In rainbows #7
The bends #22
Is this it #23
Rumours #24
The suburbs #44
Yankee hotel foxtrot #48
Weezer blue #75
A moon shaped pool #79
Magical mystery tour #85
Sound of silver #92
For emma forever ago #98
A night at the opera #100

RYM
TPAB #2
Loveless #6
In rainbows #10
Red #24
Long season #35
Vespertine #37
Otokotachi no wakare #43
Led zeppelin 4 #45
The glow pt. 2 #47
Endtroducing #52
The money store #56
Atrocity exhibition #58
Soundtracks for the blind #69
Fall's peel sessions #91
Igor #94
Deathcounsciousness #95
Symbolic #98

Looking at it now, there's far more negative (maybe more weird than negative really, I like most of those albums anyway) surprises on BEA's chart than the RYM one which is 50/50 on positive and negative surprises.

Yeah, half-way with you. RYM is the more diverse and interesting list (and the diversity thing is a big issue for BEA). But I still voted BEA as better 🤡 Could have been better the devil you know 🧱

Pretty much agree with all those odd placings - I guess the RYM ones surprised me a bit more than BEA.

Presumably you would have Led Zep 4 higher on RYM?(I would) Rumours at #24 on BEA is about right for me.

theblueboy

In the meantime, we are tied at 8-8. Fair result for me. Probably an honorary victory for RYM at this point since playing away from home. I’ll leave the poll open indefinitely.

theblueboy

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That might also explain why the forums are so civil these days (I've only been here a year, but having reviewed several older threads it's pretty clear they were less civil in the past). I'm totally theorizing now, but my guess is that members who stick around and become "regulars" either don't want to argue about album rankings, or they're among the few who over time have learned to express their distaste for things (such as albums) without offending other people. So in many ways that's good, but it probably also reinforces the "older-person skew" because older people are more likely to not care, and are also more likely to find online hostility distasteful, at least after the first few minutes or so.

Forgot this but an interesting point. There could well be a demographic difference between BEA and RYM, possibly due to the time investment required to create charts puts of younger fans.

Yeah, very civil around BEA these days. Even in the past few years it has calmed down. Seems to be evolving that way. I agree that people aren’t really interested in arguing about whichever album is better. Overall this is a good thing, even though sometimes a little spice in the mix is missing (for the sake of conversation). Thankfully, trolling is not generally rewarded in this community.

LedZep

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Presumably you would have Led Zep 4 higher on RYM?(I would) Rumours at #24 on BEA is about right for me.

Not sure where I'd have Led Zep IV, but it did surprise me it's not in the top 20-ish. It usually is higher on lists like the RYM one. Same thing with Rumours, don't have anything against putting it at #24, yet it surprised me how popular it is. It makes sense with Dreams having a resurgence, but I usually think of Rumours (perhaps wrongly) as a borderline top 100 on lists like these. Not because of quality, more of a status thing. Also, this RYM vs BEA thing is fine margins, I totally understand people who think BEA's more classics based list is better.
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