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Liedzeit
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Age: 65
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- Posted: 12/12/2024 10:36
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So Something has a rating of 93 on Abbey Road, of 90 on the Blue album and 88 on 1. What does that mean? That context is important? That listeners of compilations are less smart than listeners of regular albums (or the other way round)? That rating is not an exact science?
And apologies to the Sloop John B. fans.  _________________ When the stewardess is near do not show any fear.
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- #12
- Posted: 12/12/2024 19:04
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Liedzeit wrote: | So Something has a rating of 93 on Abbey Road, of 90 on the Blue album and 88 on 1. What does that mean? That context is important? That listeners of compilations are less smart than listeners of regular albums (or the other way round)? That rating is not an exact science?
And apologies to the Sloop John B. fans.  |
First of all, sorry about the long post
All those high ratings mean what the BEA audience usually likes, which is mostly commercially successful artists and the rest are artists whose work had been spread in such communities by word-of-mouth (at least that's what I've observed after using BEA and RYM for a long time). Most of the same ratings are similar to RYM's, except BEA's users are more into music by English-speaking countries and old-school genres, and while RYM's users are a tiny bit less into the English-speaking music, they are into more niche stuff, hip-hop/rap and genres derived from it and quite many releases from Japan.
I don't know if rating compilation albums and their tracks show one user's intelligence, but from my experience I stopped rating any track in any compilation album except tracks that only appear in them and not in any regular album, since unlike RYM where you can rate the same track no matter if it appears in multiple releases, BEA has different track IDs for every release the same track appears, so it has been hard to follow up where I rated everything, so I deleted everything except those in the official releases. Overall, I bet there is some inconsistency in them, which is definitely an issue, so I think I don't take them seriously, but I still included them in my charts so anyone could see what BEA users have rated anyway.
Ratings are not exact science, but a way to know what the audience likes the most, and if you can find something you like from it.
Using the track average rating exercise has exposed me to albums I still highly-rate, albums I used to highly-rate, albums I wouldn't have found easily in the overall chart and albums I didn't like despite the high track average.
I made it as an alternative to the overall chart, since back then it didn't give a lot of albums I kept liking the more I used it, so I made up the "top albums by track average" chart first in Excel and it gave me more satisfactory results since it felt making more sense using the "the more great tracks an album has, the greater the album" mantra while looking for albums, which the overall chart and the top rated albums chart disregard.
I forgive you about Sloop John B, although I've haven't been really mad about it, since I have my own opinions about things, and I'm glad you could say your opinions.
I'm not really brave now to say anything about things I don't like while most do though, so
but checking my ratings would be enough...
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MadhattanJack
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- #13
- Posted: 12/13/2024 02:45
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Liedzeit wrote: | So Something has a rating of 93 on Abbey Road, of 90 on the Blue album and 88 on 1. What does that mean? That context is important? That listeners of compilations are less smart than listeners of regular albums (or the other way round)? That rating is not an exact science? |
If you replace the word "smart" with "fanatical," then all three of those things are probably true (except for the "other way round" part). Also, a difference of three or four points in a 1-100 rating system isn't that much at all.
Also, I'm just guessing about this, but there are probably fewer than 100 (and maybe fewer than 50) recording artists with a Greatest Hits album for which the BEA track ratings are numerous enough to be statistically significant - and yet the ratings are still fairly close in most cases. Look at "Suffragette City" by David Bowie - the 90 rating on the Ziggy Stardust album is currently based on 936 individual ratings, and meanwhile it's rated 86 on Changesonebowie based on only 17 ratings. So if we theorize that some of these ratings are from people who only like Bowie enough to listen to Changesonebowie and not Ziggy, it makes sense (to me) that a few of the folks in that group might not like the individual tracks quite as much. But it's still "Suffragette City" we're talking about, so they're not going to rate it 30 points lower - they might rate it 5 or 10 points lower at the most, unless they've got some sort of personal peeve going or something.
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