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- #261
- Posted: 07/05/2025 17:36
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The most amazing coincidence just happened to me! II was thinking if II could find the original painting of this album cover:
Euphoria - Fumihiko Kitsutaka
And only about less than a minute later, II've found it! Although the bottom part of the album cover depicts another painting which was blended with the first one. II wonder if anyone knows what is the second painting (Possibly by John Constable too?).
It's one of my favorite album covers II've seen so far, and II like how the colors are more saturated and warmer and the bottom part belonging to the second unknown (for now) painting compliments the scenery better than the original.
The music itself is some nice Japanese power metal, athough the vocals aren't really impressive, since the singer doesn't hit the right notes perfectly, but the instrumental "Justice of Black" is a nice compromise for me which has good melodies, and most likely "Solitude" is an advanced homage to it, and it is already confirmed that Fumihiko Kitsutaka is the hugest inspiration for one of my favorite musicians of all time: Sword of Justice (the heavy/power metal one-man-project of Toshinori Hiramatsu).
Anyway, II've observed your thread since years ago, although not enough times, yet II'm still so grateful, since you have some really overwhelming recommendations for visual art II haven't found anywhere else on the internet! (Unless if anyone is familiar with a website which rates paintings etc.)
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| AfterHours wrote: | | Thank you II, never seen that album cover or heard the band. Don't think I'll be replacing it any time soon with Constable's painting though |
You're welcome  Kitsutaka-san is probably more known in his home country, usually as the guitarist of the band "Kinniku Shoujo Tai", and the album "Euphoria" is his first solo album. Yeah, II haven't expected you replace the painting with the album cover, but II still like how they edited it 
| AfterHours wrote: | | Glad to hear you've been following this and find you've got something out of this thread. You're always welcome of course and I would be interested in any further suggestions, selections, favorites if you've come up with some along the way. |
Thank you In fact, II've got a lot of it!: Dino Valls, Jacopo Tintoretto, Werner Tubke, Luis Jose Estremadoyro, Alphonso Mucha, Mark Tansey, The Painted Hall and other creations II was aware of but the thread made me re-check them. As of recently II'm discovering the architechtural pieces.
There was also that photomontage/photoshop artist who you posted one of her creations from the late 1990's. Do you still remember her name? II would be grateful.
Unfortunately, II don't think II have enough suggestions for any visual art so far, but II think II would post at least something soon.
| AfterHours wrote: | As for painting sites.... There's really good sites that offer useful info or analysis (like Visual Arts Cork and others). But yeah, as for users presenting their own selections (or a collective vote of such things) they're pretty mediocre from what I'm come across any time I've looked around at it. When it comes to the subject of "best paintings" (even worse, if we mean also to find a place to discuss such things) ...not even sure I can recall finding any sites legitimately dedicated to such things on their own (which is beyond strange on a place as large and wide as the internet...) but where I found something approaching this, it's usually just rote rankings of the best ever by just about exactly how famous they are. Not the worst way to go with paintings as there is decent correlation between the two, but you also inevitably see silly things like ranking the "Creation of Adam" above or below also "Sistine Chapel Ceiling" or not even including the ceiling but only the Creation of Adam... huh? ... as in, there is an obvious lack of homework taking place ... they aren't even aware the Creation of Adam is just a very famous part of the Sistine Ceiling, which is far more impressive collectively as a whole (that also accumulates part-to-part) than any single part anyway (even if the Creation of Adam is indeed impressive and justifiably famous).
Might as well start ranking "Mona Lisa's mouth" #1 but not the painting (or above the painting which we can also rank!)... Hey, actually... maybe I can get into this!!! |
II'll check Visual Arts Cork. Perhaps it would teach me some techincal terms about compositions, paints etc.
II'm probably familiar with the most famous paintings, so II guess those sites won't assist me, since there are some famous paintings which personally haven't impressed me. Perhaps ranking only the "Creation of Adam" is not a bad idea, as ranking a song of an album, but they should've at least categorize "Creation of Adam" as a part of a whole creation. It's kinda funny though ; imagine if we started ranking only the guitar intro of "Here Comes the Sun" before the first vocal verse starts! Perhaps analyzing a song's segments separately could provide a better analysis, but that seems way overexcessive, as II haven't needed to ever do that in the first place everytime II listened to a song, since after several listens you could probably have a more concrete opinion about the whole song.
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- #262
- Posted: 07/05/2025 20:19
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@ II
Perhaps Evi Moechel "Zazie"?
I long ago featured works like "Epaves" and "When the Eye of Pandora's Mask Screams (2011)". As a note, she was later included by Piero Scaruffi in his history of Visual Art (including those works) among several others I recommended to him. She is very obscure (or maybe was, I haven't kept up on her in years) and deserved more notice, so I'm glad he did that.
No idea what I'd rate her now in relation to current standards. That was roughly the earliest incarnation of this list. Just looking at it (without revisiting any old notes) Epaves is still pretty interesting. I recall long ago putting together a short analysis of the Pandora's Mask one that I shared at the time, though I don't recall how long I kept it up on my list (back in the listology days).
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- #263
- Posted: 07/06/2025 01:50
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| AfterHours wrote: | @ II
Perhaps Evi Moechel "Zazie"?
I long ago featured works like "Epaves" and "When the Eye of Pandora's Mask Screams (2011)". As a note, she was later included by Piero Scaruffi in his history of Visual Art (including those works) among several others I recommended to him. She is very obscure (or maybe was, I haven't kept up on her in years) and deserved more notice, so I'm glad he did that.
No idea what I'd rate her now in relation to current standards. That was roughly the earliest incarnation of this list. Just looking at it (without revisiting any old notes) Epaves is still pretty interesting. I recall long ago putting together a short analysis of the Pandora's Mask one that I shared at the time, though I don't recall how long I kept it up on my list (back in the listology days). |
Yes, that's her! Thank you 
"When the Eye of Pandora's Mask Screams" has some great details.
Her website probably hasn't been updated since 2013, she hasn't posted anything on her Twitter/X account, and she hasn't uploaded a video her YouTube channel since seven years ago (these two videos have been on my mind ever since: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA1BBIkV-Wc , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8K_kqQd56c),
but there are two of her works on Facebook published in 2021: Brain Jungle & Golden Times for Dragonflies, and it seems like she went to make digital art, or her photomontage skills have improved to be unnoticable.
And she sells books on Amazon of her works.
But she is definitely obscure as she hasn't posted much on social media.
II gotta thank Scaruffi for mentioning her. She has nice digital photomontage works.
Now for recommendations (as a reward), II wonder what are your thoughts on Wat Rong Khun.
And as for photomontage, which is for me an intresting genre (II probably like the realistic look of the figures in these works), there are the works of Erik Johansson (seeing Zazie's works reminded me of him)
II haven't been looking up for a lot of visual art so far, so these are what II could recommend for now.
II hope you enjoy seeing them
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- #264
- Posted: 07/06/2025 02:41
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| II wrote: | | AfterHours wrote: | @ II
Perhaps Evi Moechel "Zazie"?
I long ago featured works like "Epaves" and "When the Eye of Pandora's Mask Screams (2011)". As a note, she was later included by Piero Scaruffi in his history of Visual Art (including those works) among several others I recommended to him. She is very obscure (or maybe was, I haven't kept up on her in years) and deserved more notice, so I'm glad he did that.
No idea what I'd rate her now in relation to current standards. That was roughly the earliest incarnation of this list. Just looking at it (without revisiting any old notes) Epaves is still pretty interesting. I recall long ago putting together a short analysis of the Pandora's Mask one that I shared at the time, though I don't recall how long I kept it up on my list (back in the listology days). |
Yes, that's her! Thank you
"When the Eye of Pandora's Mask Screams" has some great details.
Her website probably hasn't been updated since 2013, she hasn't posted anything on her Twitter/X account, and she hasn't uploaded a video her YouTube channel since seven years ago (these two videos have been on my mind ever since: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA1BBIkV-Wc , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8K_kqQd56c),
but there are two of her works on Facebook published in 2021: Brain Jungle & Golden Times for Dragonflies, and it seems like she went to make digital art, or her photomontage skills have improved to be unnoticable.
And she sells books on Amazon of her works.
But she is definitely obscure as she hasn't posted much on social media.
II gotta thank Scaruffi for mentioning her. She has nice digital photomontage works.
Now for recommendations (as a reward), II wonder what are your thoughts on Wat Rong Khun.
And as for photomontage, which is for me an intresting genre (II probably like the realistic look of the figures in these works), there are the works of Erik Johansson (seeing Zazie's works reminded me of him)
II haven't been looking up for a lot of visual art so far, so these are what II could recommend for now.
II hope you enjoy seeing them |
Thanks II, glad that was the one!
Thanks for the Zazie update. Brain Jungle is pretty cool.
Wat Rong Khun is a work of architecture I used to feature among an early 7.3+ list (listology). It never "officially" got downgraded or anything, I just haven't got back around much to Japanese/Taiwanese/Chinese Architecture in a while, so haven't sought to include revisiting it so far. It's an otherworldy work for sure and its crystalline designs, white facade is pretty iconic, not to mention its strange, grotesques, ghoulish sculpture art that decorates the exterior. I would need to re-acclimate myself to Asian architecture again before giving it a rating with confidence. I was starting to revisit Asian architecture right before I jumped back over to Paintings, so perhaps I'll start from where I left off when I get back to it, including Wat Rong Khun.
I've (briefly) happened across some Erik Johansson some time back but wouldn't say I've "studied" them by any means. I can see some correlation with Zazie too. I'll note him down to check out!
Thank you for the recs/reminders!
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- #265
- Posted: 07/06/2025 15:44
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Re: Creation of Adam
The amusing point for me is not so much the fact of including it, it's more about obliviousness, and including both that and the whole Ceiling on the same list (even both, separately placed, together inside a top 10 or 20). And if I did an equivalent of "greatest songs/tracks" for paintings (such as best "panels" or something), I too would include it somewhere on there. But on these often "rote" looking lists, and even making no mention of the Creation of Adam being part of the Ceiling's whole (more common than you would think because it is so known on its own), it tends to speak of the probability that the user(s) is not aware they are talking about part of a much larger work and are simply copying from a google image search of most famous paintings (or similar) where that image will be no doubt be among the most featured (with Mona Lisa, Starry Night, etc).
Most amusingly, I've even seen comments of some "reviewing" Michelangelo's Sistine Ceiling and -- because that one part of it is so ubiquitous and is "the" image of choice -- they occasionally will really think the whole work consists of "only" the Creation of Adam (and not the dozens of figures/scenes all around it and associated with it too!). And -- no joke, I've actually seen this -- some of these reviews will mention how they went to visit it at the Vatican and came away disappointed with how it was much smaller than they thought. So not only are they -- hilariously -- not really "looking at" what is among the largest paintings in the world right there in front of them, thinking the "whole" of Michelangelo's work is just that part (the Creation of Adam alone) but it being about 65 feet up off the floor additionally makes them also miss the fact of what is actually a huge painting just that in itself (Creation of Adam is just over 9 feet by almost 19 feet across; the figures are bigger than life sized... not that much smaller than, say, Guernica, the size of which often stuns people on that point alone), and thus, even just the Creation of Adam can appear sort of "small"!! It's funny to me how these confusions can lead to such comedies of errors and even cause people to waste their own trip into the Sistine and not notice what they're looking at when they finally have the chance to do so in person! Not to mention, missing the friggin Last Judgment assaulting the other wall out of existence and into another dimension -- if only they just turned their head towards the altar instead of only trying to look at the Creation of Adam at the ignorance of all else
Anyway, I don't mean I expect casual viewers to all be art historians or something, it's just these sorts of things that make me chuckle
This is what keeps me posting here, realizing I've got work to do
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- #266
- Posted: 07/06/2025 18:40
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| AfterHours wrote: | Thanks II, glad that was the one!
Thanks for the Zazie update. Brain Jungle is pretty cool.
Wat Rong Khun is a work of architecture I used to feature among an early 7.3+ list (listology). It never "officially" got downgraded or anything, I just haven't got back around much to Japanese/Taiwanese/Chinese Architecture in a while, so haven't sought to include revisiting it so far. It's an otherworldy work for sure and its crystalline designs, white facade is pretty iconic, not to mention its strange, grotesques, ghoulish sculpture art that decorates the exterior. I would need to re-acclimate myself to Asian architecture again before giving it a rating with confidence. I was starting to revisit Asian architecture right before I jumped back over to Paintings, so perhaps I'll start from where I left off when I get back to it, including Wat Rong Khun.
I've (briefly) happened across some Erik Johansson some time back but wouldn't say I've "studied" them by any means. I can see some correlation with Zazie too. I'll note him down to check out!
Thank you for the recs/reminders! |
You're welcome, and thank you once again 
It's nice to know you featured Wat Rong Khun early on. It's white color is definitely fascinating! There is also its mural inside with some modern pop culture referrences painted by the same creator of the temple, Chalermchai Kositpipat. There are also Wat Rong Suea Tan (the Blue Temple) Baan Dam (the Black House Museum) in the same province, Chiang Rai. A bonus temple: Wat Sam Phran (The Temple of the Rising Dragon). II only found out about these additional temples recently There are probably more out there. Would like to see what you've found out in the future and II would probably try finding out other visual art stuff.
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- Posted: 07/07/2025 02:21
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Thanks II, speaking of photo montage works, I upgraded Siquieros' Portrait of the Bourgeoisie and Rosenquist's F-111 up to 7.4/10, both of which employed "photo montage" designs, compositionally -- entirely in paint (not actually using photos on the canvas). Siqueiros' work is practically "cinematic montage" too with how it employs and juxtaposes its imagery in its panels and in relationship to the shift in their angles and one's shift in space while walking by and looking over it.
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| AfterHours wrote: | | Thanks II, speaking of photo montage works, I upgraded Siquieros' Portrait of the Bourgeoisie and Rosenquist's F-111 up to 7.4/10, both of which employed "photo montage" designs, compositionally -- entirely in paint (not actually using photos on the canvas). Siqueiros' work is practically "cinematic montage" too with how it employs and juxtaposes its imagery in its panels and in relationship to the shift in their angles and one's shift in space while walking by and looking over it. |
You're welcome "Portrait of the Bourgeoisie" catched my eyes several times on your thread and it looks really great! II like the color palette, shades, figures and its 4-faced cubic panoramic view which makes you feel you're inside the painting!
II probably like paintings like F-111 less as the images don't feel interconnected enough for me, but II like its vibrant colors which look great for it being painted in the mid 60's, its big size is impressive, the symmetry of the figures, and the black image with the blue bursting water is my favorite.
Thank you for bringing these paintings up
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| AfterHours wrote: | @II
Re: Creation of Adam
The amusing point for me is not so much the fact of including it, it's more about obliviousness, and including both that and the whole Ceiling on the same list (even both, separately placed, together inside a top 10 or 20). And if I did an equivalent of "greatest songs/tracks" for paintings (such as best "panels" or something), I too would include it somewhere on there. But on these often "rote" looking lists, and even making no mention of the Creation of Adam being part of the Ceiling's whole (more common than you would think because it is so known on its own), it tends to speak of the probability that the user(s) is not aware they are talking about part of a much larger work and are simply copying from a google image search of most famous paintings (or similar) where that image will be no doubt be among the most featured (with Mona Lisa, Starry Night, etc).
Most amusingly, I've even seen comments of some "reviewing" Michelangelo's Sistine Ceiling and -- because that one part of it is so ubiquitous and is "the" image of choice -- they occasionally will really think the whole work consists of "only" the Creation of Adam (and not the dozens of figures/scenes all around it and associated with it too!). And -- no joke, I've actually seen this -- some of these reviews will mention how they went to visit it at the Vatican and came away disappointed with how it was much smaller than they thought. So not only are they -- hilariously -- not really "looking at" what is among the largest paintings in the world right there in front of them, thinking the "whole" of Michelangelo's work is just that part (the Creation of Adam alone) but it being about 65 feet up off the floor additionally makes them also miss the fact of what is actually a huge painting just that in itself (Creation of Adam is just over 9 feet by almost 19 feet across; the figures are bigger than life sized... not that much smaller than, say, Guernica, the size of which often stuns people on that point alone), and thus, even just the Creation of Adam can appear sort of "small"!! It's funny to me how these confusions can lead to such comedies of errors and even cause people to waste their own trip into the Sistine and not notice what they're looking at when they finally have the chance to do so in person! Not to mention, missing the friggin Last Judgment assaulting the other wall out of existence and into another dimension -- if only they just turned their head towards the altar instead of only trying to look at the Creation of Adam at the ignorance of all else
Anyway, I don't mean I expect casual viewers to all be art historians or something, it's just these sorts of things that make me chuckle
This is what keeps me posting here, realizing I've got work to do |
Those who came only to see the "Creation of Adam" weren't probably aware of the importance of the whole Sistine Chapel, which is full of paintings which portray a whole story and a backstory of its creation process. Not to mention all the amazingly beautiful paintings on the quite long way in the Apostolic Palace before reaching the chapel itself, e.g. "The School of Athens" by Raphael is one of them if II'm not mistaken. And there is the whole St. Peter's Square and all the amazing things it has to offer!
II guess it's up to them to find out one day if they have been missing things
The Sistine Chapel is uniquely amazing!
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- Posted: 07/08/2025 15:06
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| II wrote: | You're welcome "Portrait of the Bourgeoisie" catched my eyes several times on your thread and it looks really great! II like the color palette, shades, figures and its 4-faced cubic panoramic view which makes you feel you're inside the painting!
II probably like paintings like F-111 less as the images don't feel interconnected enough for me, but II like its vibrant colors which look great for it being painted in the mid 60's, its big size is impressive, the symmetry of the figures, and the black image with the blue bursting water is my favorite.
Thank you for bringing these paintings up |
Much of F-111 is developing a vivid, absurd, hyped, satirical symbology, in close correlation to its 50s-60s audience -- every element seems random or semi-random but actually matters (is hidden behind the blatant hype by artistic genius) -- between the life-sized 80+ foot jet "happily" thrusting its way through the whole thing (no violence to be seen here! All suggestions of violence is "hidden" by "happy" colors, images, messages or masqueraded by them) ...in correlation and at the expense of its consumerism and messages. The colors are all garishly happy, cheerful, while satirically exploiting its consumerist, militaristic message as if a giant advertisement/billboard. Every image has and conveys meaning, often multiple possibilities, often ambiguous. For instance the little girl (as the "pilot"!) under the hair dryer features also a perfect and brilliant yellow field behind her, that "segues" from her perfect 50's blonde hair and cute ribbons, all-happy color, while the dryer itself is lined by rocket boosters from its rim, shooting from it (to propel it to dry her head!) and almost "hidden" in plain view, features actual "rockets" as part of its formation (look closer at the blow dryer itself -- the structure of its middle part, basically features a rocket ship). This conflates several potential messages simultaneously, between having children in your perfect home and perfect lawn, to the contemporary Space race, to "you can grow up to be an astronaut!", to ubiquitous distractions of advertising hair styles, salons, etc, while going to War or producing for the War, and so forth -- the great economy that our great country and F-111 production will bring for us! Yay! Not to be missed, the random pink above her correlates happy child hood of a little girl (is pink never not a little girl's favorite color???) with the upcoming cheerful nucelar explosion a few panels later... This nuclear explosion is juxtaposed in shape and cheerfulness by a ridiculous umbrella as if that's going to help you with cover in such an instance, probably meant as satrical comment upon the moronic school drills of the time to hide under your desk when a nuclear explosion is alarmed (or similar), also the heat (of nuclear explosion!) reminding you to go to the beach, take your beach umbrella (all those beach and bikini advertisements became prominent in the 60s!!! Yay, lets all go to the beach while at War and to forget about the Cuban missile crises!!!), juxtaposed with the letters USA, the "A" (and Air) segueing right into the word "FORCE" across the explosion and above a huge and lovely message of spaghetti to not only reflect the conquest, increased financial state of the country and food provided by war but also to (probably) subtly suggest violence in the happiest and most satirical, garish way imaginable (the spaghetti can double in this context as a happy version of blood and guts ... good 'ol Spagetthi-Os for the kids!). The colors throughout marry red-white-blue near continuously (even the black tire is also transformed by "non-sequitur" blue and white to remind you to be an American and buy Firestone!), with tangents also (when varying from this tri-color scheme) to either variations on these themes (colors that derive, segue, from these three in more garish variations from red such as orange, etc) but nevertheless into sheer garish, bright, pristine, polished, "50's-early 60's American" happiness (which is of course satiric, as if war and the F-111 will bring this). Ridiculous, apparently non-sequitur, slogans abound, but even where completely out of no where they carry subliminal connective messages to the image, uncannily depicting the advertising of the "American dream" as a result of war machines and Vietnam, and to help produce and support such things -- the jet plane is literally "composed" of all this along its fuselage.
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