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baystateoftheart wrote:
...it's on my to-do list to listen to more by Ohio Express. I was going to go for a greatest hits, but would you recommend that LP instead?


Not really - most commercial pop bands in the 60s actually had little control over their albums, as was illustrated in the movie That Thing You Do!... So the albums mostly ended up just being The New Single plus some filler, and doubt they even intended to sell that many copies.

That doesn't, or shouldn't, mean those two albums wouldn't qualify as "seminal," though, at least within the genre. Also, many people would argue that the Monkees and the Turtles (for example) were "bubblegum" bands, and while they're still best-known for their singles, some of their albums were pretty great.
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Not really - most commercial pop bands in the 60s actually had little control over their albums, as was illustrated in the movie That Thing You Do!... So the albums mostly ended up just being The New Single plus some filler, and doubt they even intended to sell that many copies.

That doesn't, or shouldn't, mean those two albums wouldn't qualify as "seminal," though, at least within the genre. Also, many people would argue that the Monkees and the Turtles (for example) were "bubblegum" bands, and while they're still best-known for their singles, some of their albums were pretty great.


Ironically the Ohio Express actually had more control over their albums than anything else. They were trying to make it as a psych band, but ended up being used mostly as a front for bubblegum studio musicians, who recorded all the hit singles. The actual band would tour regularly and only got to record the album filler. Apparently for one of their hit singles (Chewy Chewy), they weren't even aware it was recorded or released until fans started demanding it at concerts. Record company shenanigans touch all genres, but apparently were if anything more pronounced with bubblegum bands, with a pattern of the band not making the hits, being relegated to touring and recording filler, and barely if ever getting paid. For Buddah Records, home of Ohio Express, 1910 Fruitgum Company, and many more, Jeff Katz and Jerry Kasenetz were the production masterminds, and Joey Levine did lead vocals for the singles from many of their "bands."

The Monkees definitely have a lot of bubblegummy songs. I've only listened to them in compilation form, and love the singles. Any album recommendations?

I like The Turtles too, but not sure if I'd call them bubblegum. I've heard most of their singles, Happy Together is a really good album, and The Battle Of The Bands is on my to-do list.
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[quoteThe Monkees definitely have a lot of bubblegummy songs. I've only listened to them in compilation form, and love the singles. Any album recommendations?

I like The Turtles too, but not sure if I'd call them bubblegum. I've heard most of their singles, Happy Together is a really good album, and The Battle Of The Bands is on my to-do list.[/quote]

If I were to recommend any monkees album to start with it would be


The Monkees by The Monkees

They were probably one of very few bubblegummers (I’m trademarking that term) who because an actual proper band and their later albums were more psychedelic. Another later album to try might be


Head by The Monkees

Weirder but pretty damn good IMO
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You've got The Archies, The Banana Splits and The Monkees, so you also have to include The Partridge Family too.
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You've got The Archies, The Banana Splits and The Monkees, so you also have to include The Partridge Family too.


Forgot about them. Absolutely needs to be included.
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Johnnyo wrote:
If I were to recommend any monkees album to start with it would be


The Monkees by The Monkees

They were probably one of very few bubblegummers (I’m trademarking that term) who because an actual proper band and their later albums were more psychedelic. Another later album to try might be


Head by The Monkees

Weirder but pretty damn good IMO


Thanks! Added both to my to-do list. Love the singles from both and looking forward to checking out.
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It's an underrated fact that this song...


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...was the genesis of this song. The reach of bubblegum was farther than it ever gets credit far.


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Good call, totally hear the connection. Love Sugar, Sugar - an amazing song and The Archies' best. Believe it or not, this is my first time hearing Pour Some Sugar On Me... I guess I've been living under a rock Embarassed
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