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Johnnyo wrote:
Not an album I was aware of until this thread alerted me to it. Having listen to it a couple of times, really not a fan. Although there are come good songs, fun, fun, fun and why do fools fall in love for example, There doesn’t feel like any flow or consistent thread running through the album. It seems to bounce around a lot.

My least favourite of the albums discussed so far.


Hey, Johnnyo! What are your rankings for the first five we've discussed?! Curious to see if you are part of the Surin' Safari or Surfer Girl camp!

#teamsurfinsafari <although Surer Girl is really swell too!>
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Lovin this thread, Repo!

It's got two of my favourite artists in it: Beach Boys and Donovan.

And some interesting comments.

When I get some time I am listening to early Beach Boys albums. I heard half of Surfin Safari last night but I fell asleep. Great album.

Man! I miss Brian Wilson.

Also I wanna rewatch Double Indemnity. Great movie.
Barbara Stanwycks a scary woman in that. I wouldn't mess with her. Or her bangs!
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Lovin this thread, Repo!

It's got two of my favourite artists in it: Beach Boys and Donovan.

And some interesting comments.

When I get some time I am listening to early Beach Boys albums. I heard half of Surfin Safari last night but I fell asleep. Great album.

Man! I miss Brian Wilson.

Also I wanna rewatch Double Indemnity. Great movie.
Barbara Stanwycks a scary woman in that. I wouldn't mess with her. Or her bangs!


Thanks, Charlie! So nice to hear! Very Happy

It's weird too! Because the other Rank 'Em I've been working on presently is for Donovan! <At first I thought I must have posted my rankings in my sleep! Laughing >

Anyways, here's what I got so far on the Donovan front...

Rank 'Em: Donovan
1. A Gift from a Flower to a Garden (1967) Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil <always & forever #1!!!>
2. Sunshine Superman (1966) Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil <THE Psych-Folk album of the 60s>
3. Mellow Yellow (1967) Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil <Psych-Folk-Jazz. The blurring of genres is dizzying & delightful!>
4. Hurdy Gurdy Man (1968) Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil <Just ANOTHER singular Donovan album as only he could do!>
5. Fairytale (1965) Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil <Donovan discovers his sound & style. A giant leap from the decent but derivative What's Bin Did...>
6. HMS Donovan (1971) Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil <Donovan's most underrated album. He creates his own world!>
7. Open Road (1970) Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
8. Barabajagal (1969) tbd
9. Essence To Essence (1973) tbd
10. Cosmic Wheels (1973) tbd
11. What's Bin Did and What's Bin Hid (1965) Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil <A diverse playlist of all his influences. Dynamic and fun. BUT, he hadn't yet found HIS own sound.>
... more to come/w.i.p. ...

I honestly think his run from Fairytale to HMS Donovan/Open Road is one of the most impressive of the entire 60s/early 70s. Right up their with The Byrds, Beatles, Kinks & Stones!

We could possibly make Ranking Donovan (or something else entirely, I'm OPEN to anything pretty much anything) the next BEA group project?! Think Maybe Black Sabbath?! Twisted Evil

Psyched to see your Beach Boys rankings when u get the time! Cool
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Johnnyo wrote:
Not an album I was aware of until this thread alerted me to it. Having listen to it a couple of times, really not a fan. Although there are come good songs, fun, fun, fun and why do fools fall in love for example, There doesn’t feel like any flow or consistent thread running through the album. It seems to bounce around a lot.

My least favourite of the albums discussed so far.


Hey, Johnnyo! What are your rankings for the first five we've discussed?! Curious to see if you are part of the Surin' Safari or Surfer Girl camp!

#teamsurfinsafari <although Surer Girl is really swell too!>


Hi repo. Great thread.

I’d have to go with;

1. Surfer girl
2. Surfin USA
3. Surfin safari
4. Little deuce coupe
5. Shut down
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For my rankings I decided to include some additional albums associated with The Beach Boys. Here are the extra ones I'll be listening to:

1967: Song Cycle - Van Dyke Parks [never an official member, but worked closely with Brian on songwriting]
1970: The Flame - The Flame [South African rock band that The Beach Boys signed to their record label, Ricky Fataar and Blondie Chaplin would soon join The Beach Boys]
1972: Discover America - Van Dyke Parks
1972: Spring - Spring [girl group produced by Brian and featuring Marilyn Wilson]
1963-73: Pet Projects: The Brian Wilson Productions - Various Artists [compilation of Brian's productions for other artists]
1977: Pacific Ocean Blue - Dennis Wilson
1977-79: Bambu (The Caribou Sessions) - Dennis Wilson [like Smile, unfinished and shelved]
1988: Brian Wilson - Brian Wilson
2004: Smile - Brian Wilson
2008: That Lucky Old Sun - Brian Wilson
2010: A Postcard From California - Al Jardine
2010: Brian Wilson Reimagines Gershwin - Brian Wilson
2013: Songs Cycled - Van Dyke Parks

Do you see any other Beach Boys "expanded universe" records as essential listening?


Great question, BayState! I had to mull this one over quite a bit before getting back to you. My thoughts so far...

Definitely the finally completed Smile, right? That has to be #1. Then I'd add the albums by the THREE brothers (you forgot poor Carl's solo LP Razz ...


Carl Wilson by Carl Wilson

.... ) of which I'd consider Pacific Ocean Blue and Brian Wilson self-titled debut - Brian Wilson - the most important to include. Then I'd consider adding Song Cycle by Van Dyke Parks just because I've heard good things.

I'd also consider adding Bruce Johnston's stuff especially ...


Surfin' 'Round The World by Bruce Johnston

... before he joined The Beach Boys as well as David Marks' stuff after he left the Beach Boys ...


The Ultimate Collector's Edition 1963-'...e Marksmen

BUT, the main thing for me is finish the project without wiping out < Mr. Green >. If adding the above helps me stay motivated by changing things up a bit, I'll do it! For instance, rn going back and just listening to the basic surf rock of Bruce Johnston's LPs from 1963 sounds like a really good palette cleanse.
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Little Deuce Coupe

I'll echo the criticisms upthread. This album simply whizzed by. 4 tracks are recycled from previous albums, and nothing stands out among the 8 originals. I suppose it's somewhat expected given it was their third album of the year 1963. It feels more like a B-side album, with three tried-and-true singles to boost sales. 409 was one of those singles, which was released over a year earlier, and featured on Surfin' Safari which was three albums earlier. It seemed odd at first, but when I thought about the timeline, it made more sense. 1962-63 saw the band rise to fame very quickly, and Little Deuce Coupe was the album designed to capitalize. 409, the title track, and Shut Down had been high-charting singles but they were on each of their first three albums. I feel like putting them all on one LP was a marketing decision, and it paid off. Apparently Little Deuce Coupe was their best-selling album. Good for the record label, I guess. On the other hand, it's a little flat and uneven as an album. The 8 original tracks feel less inspired and feel as though they were tossed in to fill vinyl space. Some of them are ok though. I still like Be True to Your School and Spirit of America, but they're far from the band's best.
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On the question of the expanded beach boys universe, the two albums which stand out for me are;


Pacific Ocean Blue by Dennis Wilson

Which is phenomenal, and


Bambu (The Caribou Sessions) by Dennis Wilson

Which, although an unfinished album, stands as a great album even in its unfinished state.

Dennis was rather overshadowed by Brian, most people would have been, but was a great artist in his own right
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Shut Down, Volume 2

Was there an called Shut Down, Volume 1? Cause I've never heard of it before. There actually was, a surf rock compilation of various artists The Beach Boys contributed two songs to. I don't know how Volume 2 became an exclusively Beach Boys project, but it doesn't matter. It maintains the summer vibes in a more conventional fashion than their earlier albums. It starts off sounding like a hybrid of their song Surfin' USA and Johnny Be Goode by Chuck Berry. But no, it's just Fun, Fun, Fun, a fun, fun, fun easily recognizable Beach Boys tune. Track 2, Don't Worry Baby, easily the best song on this album and perhaps the best song they had recorded to date. It could arguably mark Brian Wilson's first serious venture into deeper cut songs he would be writing more of 1965-67. It doesn't sound like your typical Beach Boys song of this phase. It's slower tempo, more melancholic in mood, much more layered in vocals and instrumentals than anything else on this album. It's a wonderful tune. But eek, the album falls off after that. Track 4 was an unfunny joke, a 4th-wall breaking back-and-forth between bandmates, the title of the track referencing the famous 1964 heavyweight title fight. That's only interesting part in my opinion, no need to actually listen to it. The other tracks are pretty much all underwhelming except Warmth of the Sun.

Shut Down, Volume 2 might be the weakest album from the band up until this point. But Don't Worry was a sign of much greater things to come.
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Lovin this thread, Repo!



Thanks, Charlie! So nice to hear! Very Happy

It's weird too! Because the other Rank 'Em I've been working on presently is for Donovan! <At first I thought I must have posted my rankings in my sleep! Laughing >

Anyways, here's what I got so far on the Donovan front...

Rank 'Em: Donovan
1. A Gift from a Flower to a Garden (1967) Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil <always & forever #1!!!>
2. Sunshine Superman (1966) Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil <THE Psych-Folk album of the 60s>
3. Mellow Yellow (1967) Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil <Psych-Folk-Jazz. The blurring of genres is dizzying & delightful!>
4. Hurdy Gurdy Man (1968) Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil <Just ANOTHER singular Donovan album as only he could do!>
5. Fairytale (1965) Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil <Donovan discovers his sound & style. A giant leap from the decent but derivative What's Bin Did...>
6. HMS Donovan (1971) Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil <Donovan's most underrated album. He creates his own world!>
7. Open Road (1970) Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
8. Barabajagal (1969) tbd
9. Essence To Essence (1973) tbd
10. Cosmic Wheels (1973) tbd
11. What's Bin Did and What's Bin Hid (1965) Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil <A diverse playlist of all his influences. Dynamic and fun. BUT, he hadn't yet found HIS own sound.>
... more to come/w.i.p. ...

I honestly think his run from Fairytale to HMS Donovan/Open Road is one of the most impressive of the entire 60s/early 70s. Right up their with The Byrds, Beatles, Kinks & Stones!

We could possibly make Ranking Donovan (or something else entirely, I'm OPEN to anything pretty much anything) the next BEA group project?! Think Maybe Black Sabbath?! Twisted Evil

Psyched to see your Beach Boys rankings when u get the time! Cool


Hey Repo!

I made time to listen to the Surfin' Safari album. It was good. Fun and upbeat. A little silly but hey, these guys were teenagers at the time, I believe. So good on 'em.

I love the track Surfin' Safari and I enjoyed their cover version of Summertime Blues by Eddie Cochran. Very good stuff.

My current favourite Donovan album is Hurdy Gurdy Man but I love a Gift From A Flower and Sunshine Superman. Terrific albums. He has a good few great ones, I agree. I always thought Donovan was so much more than just a Bob Dylan aficionado. He has genuine talent and likability.

On the movie watching front, seeing You also have movies on your thread, I am way behind on my watch list. I am only really able to watch films in 20-minute chunks at the present moment. Thank goodness for streaming.

Next movie in my sights is Bringing Up Baby. I have watched the first half-hour so far..

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Hey Repo!

I made time to listen to the Surfin' Safari album. It was good. Fun and upbeat. A little silly but hey, these guys were teenagers at the time, I believe. So good on 'em.

I love the track Surfin' Safari and I enjoyed their cover version of Summertime Blues by Eddie Cochran. Very good stuff.

My current favourite Donovan album is Hurdy Gurdy Man but I love a Gift From A Flower and Sunshine Superman. Terrific albums. He has a good few great ones, I agree. I always thought Donovan was so much more than just a Bob Dylan aficionado. He has genuine talent and likability.

On the movie watching front, seeing You also have movies on your thread, I am way behind on my watch list. I am only really able to watch films in 20-minute chunks at the present moment. Thank goodness for streaming.

Next movie in my sights is Bringing Up Baby. I have watched the first half-hour so far..

I


Oh cool! I've been itching to see Bringing Up Baby too. I really dug Cary Grant in The Awful Truth. Will try to get it from my library & watch maybe this or next week. Cool
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