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- #81
- Posted: 05/31/2025 09:05
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| MadhattanJack wrote: | | It couldn't possibly be over 20 minutes - there were versions pressed on two 12" 78 rpm discs, and you can only get a maximum of 5 minutes per side on one of those things. Besides, who's going to want to dance multiple waltzes lasting 5+ minutes each? Most people would die of exhaustion. |
 I can definitely relate to the last bit (78s are interesting, also depends on year of manufacture, single/double-sided etc, but this one almost certainly less than 20 minutes per your analysis).
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- #82
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Album year changes
Year changes from the past 7 days:
A Sense Of Wonder by Van Morrison changed from 1985 to 1984 - listed in 14 year chart(s) & 2 decade chart(s))
Fly Me Courageous by Drivin' N' Cryin' changed from 1991 to 1990 - listed in 11 year chart(s) & 2 decade chart(s))
Has Anyone Here Seen Sigfried? by Pavlov's Dog changed from 1977 to 2007 - listed in 2 year chart(s) & 1 decade chart(s)) (*decade change)
The Unexpected...Instrumental...B.B. Ki... B.B. King changed from 1986 to 1984 - listed in 2 year chart(s) & 0 decade chart(s))
Collection by Flash And The Pan changed from 1996 to 1990 - listed in 1 year chart(s) & 0 decade chart(s))
David Lang: The Little Match Girl Passi... Of Voices changed from 2007 to 2009 - listed in 1 year chart(s) & 0 decade chart(s))
Liszt: Les Préludes / Glinka: Kamarins...er Leipzig changed from 1987 to 1968 - listed in 1 year chart(s) & 0 decade chart(s)) (*decade change)
Gemini I by Johanna Warren changed from 2020 to 2016 - listed in 1 year chart(s) & 0 decade chart(s)) (*decade change)
Midnight Magic by Sofa King Killer changed from 2005 to 2004 - listed in 1 year chart(s) & 0 decade chart(s))
Transition by Jaymie Rose Hennegan changed from 2018 to 2024 - listed in 1 year chart(s) & 0 decade chart(s)) (*decade change)
Killed For Kings by Rich DePaolo changed from 2019 to 2018 - listed in 1 year chart(s) & 0 decade chart(s))
Khachaturian : Gayaneh (Sabre Dance) / ... Orchestra changed from 1956 to 1994 - listed in 1 year chart(s) & 0 decade chart(s)) (*decade change)
Newly suspect albums
Albums flagged as suspect in the past 7 days (excluding future releases). These albums will be deleted from the site after 28 days, unless further information is received:
Esecuzioni Scombinate Da Kurt Grieder by I Suonati 4 tracks. Unable to locate proof that this is >20 minutes. 1959 7" 45RPM EP release.
Spit It Out by Solar 2 tracks , total duration = 6:28.
Plays Albert Ayler by Ekkehard Ehlers 2 tracks ,total duration = 19:46
I Am Away by Dinky 3 tracks, 14:06
New Faces - New Sounds by Julius Watkins Sextet 4 tracks below 20 minutes
Three Berry Icecream by Three Berry Icecream 4 tracks, 7:47
Head Over Hills by Blitzkid 4 tracks , total duration = 14:31
Analord 11 by AFX 3 tracks, 19:18
Analord 03 by AFX 4 tracks, 18:51
Ndizvizvo by Stella Chiweshe 4 tracks, 19:59
Jazz Instrumentals On Acoustic & El...chael Marc https://www.besteveralbums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=732073#732073
My Gramma Thinks I'm Cool by Various Artists Promo
Masturbate In Praise Of Black Satan by Apator Promotional demo
Newly deleted albums
Albums deleted from the site in the past 7 days (appearing in at least one chart):
A Thousand Clouds by Emancipator & 9 Theory - listed in 1 chart(s)
Satanic Prostitute by Zheani - listed in 3 chart(s)
Sensory - Collaborations 1999-2002 by Marvin Ayres & Pete Gomes Video release - listed in 1 chart(s)
10 by Sault - listed in 1 chart(s)
Amsterdam Twerk Music by Yellow Claw - listed in 1 chart(s)
It's A Kid's World by Disco Inferno - listed in 4 chart(s)
Klavierwerke EP by James Blake - listed in 5 chart(s)
CMYK EP by James Blake - listed in 5 chart(s)
Blood Bank (EP) by Bon Iver - listed in 14 chart(s)
Вавилон by Кипелов [Kipelov] - listed in 1 chart(s)
Sable by Bon Iver - listed in 1 chart(s)
Ravedit by Rian Treanor - listed in 1 chart(s)
Travels In Constants, Vol. 14 by Songs: Ohia - listed in 6 chart(s)
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- #84
- Posted: 06/14/2025 07:28
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Album year changes
Year changes from the past 7 days:
Dodging Dues by Garcia Peoples changed from 2022 to 2021 - listed in 8 year chart(s) & 0 decade chart(s))
Here Come The Aliens by Kim Wilde changed from 2016 to 2018 - listed in 1 year chart(s) & 0 decade chart(s))
Franz Schubert: Symphonie Nr. 7 (9) C-D...harmoniker changed from 1973 to 1951 - listed in 1 year chart(s) & 0 decade chart(s)) (*decade change)
Newly suspect albums
Albums flagged as suspect in the past 7 days (excluding future releases). These albums will be deleted from the site after 28 days, unless further information is received:
Room by Crazy Eels Society Unable to locate album
The Machine Starts To Sing by Porridge Radio 4 tracks, 15:36
Ta Tash by Saint Abdullah track 1 is a video track, track 2 under 20 minutes
Newly deleted albums
Albums deleted from the site in the past 7 days (appearing in at least one chart):
Despicable by Carcass - listed in 1 chart(s)
Shambala - EP by Babasónicos - listed in 1 chart(s)
Star Guitar by The Chemical Brothers - listed in 1 chart(s)
Setting Sun by The Chemical Brothers 3 tracks, 16:30
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- #85
- Posted: 06/19/2025 19:53
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II have a suggestion that could benefit our future modding activities concerning finding out the first original year of releases:
Allmusic is missing a lot of entries and alternate versions of entries. It doesn't have as many album entries as MusicBrainz, which has been not added for use in the current guidelines regarding finding out the first original year of releases.
II've tried searching for albums on Allmusic several times long enough while modding, and all the ones which are not very popular in general are missing, and concerning one of the most popular video-game franchises' soundtracks "Silent Hill", even the soundtracks of "Silent Hill 1" & "Slient Hill 2" are completely missing on Allmusic, and they even mislabel the year of release of "Silent Hill 3"'s soundtrack as the year of release of "Silent Hill 1"'s soundtrack.
So based on those facts II think it would be better for us usually in the case of not very popular releases to rely on MusicBrainz (and Discogs & RYM too of course) more than Allmusic.
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- #86
- Posted: 06/20/2025 08:13
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| II wrote: | II have a suggestion that could benefit our future modding activities concerning finding out the first original year of releases:
Allmusic is missing a lot of entries and alternate versions of entries. It doesn't have as many album entries as MusicBrainz, which has been not added for use in the current guidelines regarding finding out the first original year of releases.
II've tried searching for albums on Allmusic several times long enough while modding, and all the ones which are not very popular in general are missing, and concerning one of the most popular video-game franchises' soundtracks "Silent Hill", even the soundtracks of "Silent Hill 1" & "Slient Hill 2" are completely missing on Allmusic, and they even mislabel the year of release of "Silent Hill 3"'s soundtrack as the year of release of "Silent Hill 1"'s soundtrack.
So based on those facts II think it would be better for us usually in the case of not very popular releases to rely on MusicBrainz (and Discogs & RYM too of course) more than Allmusic. |
Over the years, I've personally found that MusicBrainz is not as accurate as AllMusic for original release dates (not disputing it might have a bigger database and track listings are generally ok). AllMusic covers off a good proportion of the albums on BEA and the ones that it doesn't list will generally be on either/both of the other platforms, so don't feel the need to change things this soon.
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- #87
- Posted: 06/20/2025 14:01
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| albummaster wrote: | | II wrote: | II have a suggestion that could benefit our future modding activities concerning finding out the first original year of releases:
Allmusic is missing a lot of entries and alternate versions of entries. It doesn't have as many album entries as MusicBrainz, which has been not added for use in the current guidelines regarding finding out the first original year of releases.
II've tried searching for albums on Allmusic several times long enough while modding, and all the ones which are not very popular in general are missing, and concerning one of the most popular video-game franchises' soundtracks "Silent Hill", even the soundtracks of "Silent Hill 1" & "Slient Hill 2" are completely missing on Allmusic, and they even mislabel the year of release of "Silent Hill 3"'s soundtrack as the year of release of "Silent Hill 1"'s soundtrack.
So based on those facts II think it would be better for us usually in the case of not very popular releases to rely on MusicBrainz (and Discogs & RYM too of course) more than Allmusic. |
Over the years, I've personally found that MusicBrainz is not as accurate as AllMusic for original release dates (not disputing it might have a bigger database and track listings are generally ok). AllMusic covers off a good proportion of the albums on BEA and the ones that it doesn't list will generally be on either/both of the other platforms, so don't feel the need to change things this soon. |
II guess from what you're saying is that Allmusic is better than MusicBrainz for albums which are popular enough to be included in their database.
II can agree that MusicBrainz could be not as accurate most of the time as Discogs and even RYM (there are few cases when MusicBrainz and RYM are more accurate), since MusicBrainz possibly bases its information on external links of other sites (e.g. Discogs is displayed several times), so II think MusicBrainz could be at least used when there is a tie between Discogs and RYM showing each a different year of a release, and Allmusic doesn't have the release in their database, or lacks more info about the release, such as: not a full release date, not enough different versions of the release etc.
Regarding video-game soundtrack releases, II still think VGMdb is the absolute best, since there are high-quality images of the releases, full credits of people participating in the release and an active community who post source links in the changelog history. Thus, regarding all of that, II think VGMdb could be more accurate than any other music database website II've used so far (however, VGMdb only includes video-game soundtracks, anime soundtracks etc.).
So modding in such cases becomes more flexible and broader than using the same websites for accurate info, but overall, II agree with your points.
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- #88
- Posted: 06/20/2025 16:58
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This is such a useful thread. Thanks to everyone who contributes to making sure that the data on the site is as accurate as possible. It’s much appreciated
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- #89
- Posted: 06/21/2025 08:30
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| II wrote: | II guess from what you're saying is that Allmusic is better than MusicBrainz for albums which are popular enough to be included in their database.
II can agree that MusicBrainz could be not as accurate most of the time as Discogs and even RYM (there are few cases when MusicBrainz and RYM are more accurate), since MusicBrainz possibly bases its information on external links of other sites (e.g. Discogs is displayed several times), so II think MusicBrainz could be at least used when there is a tie between Discogs and RYM showing each a different year of a release, and Allmusic doesn't have the release in their database, or lacks more info about the release, such as: not a full release date, not enough different versions of the release etc.
Regarding video-game soundtrack releases, II still think VGMdb is the absolute best, since there are high-quality images of the releases, full credits of people participating in the release and an active community who post source links in the changelog history. Thus, regarding all of that, II think VGMdb could be more accurate than any other music database website II've used so far (however, VGMdb only includes video-game soundtracks, anime soundtracks etc.).
So modding in such cases becomes more flexible and broader than using the same websites for accurate info, but overall, II agree with your points. |
Agree, no database has 100% coverage. Niche sites can be important for some types of release.
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- #90
- Posted: 06/21/2025 08:34
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| Johnnyo wrote: | | This is such a useful thread. Thanks to everyone who contributes to making sure that the data on the site is as accurate as possible. It’s much appreciated |
Thanks, trying our best (things hopefully improved since we started doing this)
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