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Today's chart of the day

Top 50 Greatest Music Albums by WhySoManyCats (View chart)

1. A Fever You Can't Sweat Out by Panic! At The Disco (2005)
2. The Downward Spiral by Nine Inch Nails (1994)
3. Demon Days by Gorillaz (2005)
4. Toxicity by System Of A Down (2001)
5. The Black Parade by My Chemical Romance (2006)
6. Dookie by Green Day (1994)
7. Remain In Light by Talking Heads (1980)
8. Mellon Collie And The Infinite Sadness by The Smashing Pumpkins (1995)
9. The Wall by Pink Floyd (1979)
10. Nevermind by Nirvana (1991)
11. In The Aeroplane Over The Sea by Neutral Milk Hotel (1998)
12. Vessel by Twenty One Pilots (2013)
13. The Devil And God Are Raging Inside Me by Brand New (2006)
14. Folie à Deux by Fall Out Boy (2008)
15. Nimrod by Green Day (1997)
16. Black Holes And Revelations by Muse (2006)
17. MTV Unplugged In New York by Nirvana (1994)
18. Ten by Pearl Jam (1991)
19. Absolution by Muse (2003)
20. In Utero by Nirvana (1993)
21. American Idiot by Green Day (2004)
22. Pretty. Odd. by Panic! At The Disco (2008)
23. Vol. 3: (The Subliminal Verses) by Slipknot (2004)
24. Modern Vampires Of The City by Vampire Weekend (2013)
25. Three Cheers For Sweet Revenge by My Chemical Romance (2004)
26. Twenty One Pilots by Twenty One Pilots (2009)
27. Siamese Dream by The Smashing Pumpkins (1993)
28. Undertow by Tool (1993)
29. Rumours by Fleetwood Mac (1977)
30. Led Zeppelin IV by Led Zeppelin (1971)
31. Stomachaches by frnkiero andthe cellabration (2014)
32. Gorillaz by Gorillaz (2001)
33. From Under The Cork Tree by Fall Out Boy (2005)
34. The Commercial Album by The Residents (1980)
35. I Brought You My Bullets, You Brought Me Your Love by My Chemical Romance (2002)
36. Iowa by Slipknot (2001)
37. Meet The Residents by The Residents (1974)
38. Carrie & Lowell by Sufjan Stevens (2015)
39. Bleach by Nirvana (1989)
40. Enema Of The State by Blink-182 (1999)
41. The Essential Weird Al Yankovic by "Weird Al" Yankovic (2009)
42. Blurryface by Twenty One Pilots (2015)
43. Infinity On High by Fall Out Boy (2007)
44. (What's The Story) Morning Glory? by Oasis (1995)
45. Art Angels by Grimes (2015)
46. Hesitant Alien by Gerard Way (2014)
47. Sam's Town by The Killers (2006)
48. Is This It by The Strokes (2001)
49. Turn On The Bright Lights by Interpol (2002)
50. Hot Fuss by The Killers (2004)

About chart of the day: The BestEverAlbums.com chart of the day is randomly selected from all charts of at least 50 entries (and divisible by ten). Charts are only selected if they have a minimum average rating of 75 out of 100 from at least 10 votes, and must have been updated in the last 180 days. In addition, a chart must allow member feedback for it to be eligible to be selected. A full history of chart of the day can be viewed here.
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but why are there so many cats!?
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It's charts like this that make me rethink how I rate albums, by pure intuition and sentiment or by trying to come up with a more objective standard. How the fuck do I compare a Bob Dylan record to a Kraftwerk record with any objectivity whatsoever?

I deleted my chart recently because it was starting to fuck with how I'm listening to new music, wondering how it matches up to completely unrelated albums rather than just imbibing the music in the moment.

I know this site and the exercise of ranking albums is inconsequential anyway and I shouldn't let it affect me this much, but it did and it is making me think long and hard about my tastes, the connections between genres and the effects they evoke, and even (like this) the dichotomy of high/low art.
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Well, why do you feel like you have to bring any objectivity into your opinions? Why should it be necessary to weight up every aspect of every album in regards to it being the "best" (rather than your favourite). Why do you feel devoid of any substantial personal judgement at all? Furthermore, why is it any harder to compare Kraftwerk and Dylan than, say, Kid A and Nevermind - two very different albums that are actually adjacent in the overall charts. I've never understood this notion that's it's hard to compare non-"conventional" albums to the conventional (such as many charts that refuse to add albums that are e.g. instrumental, avant-garde, ambient/drone, classical pieces, traditional folk, compilations, live albums, EPs, etc etc etc). Isn't there a way to just say "hey I like this album a lot, although popular consensus disagrees I have the right to my own opinion and own taste without having to be quantitative in my analysis of albums and this is, in fact, the most valid way of determining what my personal favourite albums are"? There you go, I just did it for you. Now don't be silly and just enjoy what you enjoy, maybe you enjoy Kraftwerk for totally different reasons to Dylan, sure, but can't you just say "I enjoy this experience more". It is merely like asking you if you would like chocolate or steak. Which one do you like more? Fair enough, very different foods, but which would you enjoy more in that particular moment. Sure, an awful analogy but I think it gets the point across of knowing your taste is valid without having to weigh up certain criteria.

Sorry for getting a little bit on the aggressive side - it's one of my pet peeves in comparing your favourites since why the hell should it be that hard. Go with your heart since that is what we listen to music with.

(e: don't get me started on the faux high/low art elitist debate - although even with notions of "artsy" and difficult music being high art this chart really only has The Residents so it's not much of a dichotomy at all)
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Interesting what you guys are saying. I realize that most of the albums on my chart are not 'art' and I am trying to expand my range of music to early decades and genre I'm unfamiliar with. But so far It's mainly albums that stick to the emo/pop punk genre because that's the genre(s) that got me into music. I've recently been going through the Beatles albums and I'm hoping that my chart will expand genre and years. But that day is not here yet so just bear with me.
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Whoa just to clarify I wasn't claiming the albums here aren't art (since, well, all music is art and art isn't a spectrum it either is art or not - there's no such thing as being more "arty" than another medium for example). Although there's not many original picks here I actually like the honesty towards the music you like rather than lumping whatever is "objectively" correct onto your chart and excluding albums you like just because you can't objectively compare them to the big greats in music (as the former poster suggested). Props to you for the chart anyway, even if there's not much originality at least there's an admirable integrity to it.
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Thank you Suede, I really appreciate it.
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SuedeSwede wrote:
Well, why do you feel like you have to bring any objectivity into your opinions? Why should it be necessary to weight up every aspect of every album in regards to it being the "best" (rather than your favourite). Why do you feel devoid of any substantial personal judgement at all? Furthermore, why is it any harder to compare Kraftwerk and Dylan than, say, Kid A and Nevermind - two very different albums that are actually adjacent in the overall charts. I've never understood this notion that's it's hard to compare non-"conventional" albums to the conventional (such as many charts that refuse to add albums that are e.g. instrumental, avant-garde, ambient/drone, classical pieces, traditional folk, compilations, live albums, EPs, etc etc etc). Isn't there a way to just say "hey I like this album a lot, although popular consensus disagrees I have the right to my own opinion and own taste without having to be quantitative in my analysis of albums and this is, in fact, the most valid way of determining what my personal favourite albums are"? There you go, I just did it for you. Now don't be silly and just enjoy what you enjoy, maybe you enjoy Kraftwerk for totally different reasons to Dylan, sure, but can't you just say "I enjoy this experience more". It is merely like asking you if you would like chocolate or steak. Which one do you like more? Fair enough, very different foods, but which would you enjoy more in that particular moment. Sure, an awful analogy but I think it gets the point across of knowing your taste is valid without having to weigh up certain criteria.


Obviously if I just enjoy something more, it'll go higher on the list. That's not really what I meant. It's hard to explain.

Trans-Europe Express is a more sonically-cohesive piece, flows superbly and is greater than the sum of its parts, whereas Highway 61 Revisited is a collection of, for the most part, better individual songs (to my ears) but not as cohesive, there's a couple of lesser tracks next to great ones.

These structural differences mean that TEE is best consumed as a full listen-through, which is why it perhaps doesn't have as much of a presence in my life as other records, despite being no less satisfying in its own right.
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What does any of this have to do with objectivity and high/low art dichotomies
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