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Bitches Brew by Miles Davis (View album | Buy this album)

Year: 1970.
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Overall rank: 182
Average rating: 84/100 (from 908 votes).



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1. Pharaoh's Dance
2. Bitches Brew
3. Spanish Key
4. John Mclaughlin
5. Miles Runs The Voodoo Down
6. Sanctuary

About album of the day: The BestEverAlbums.com album of the day is the album appearing most prominently in member charts in the previous 24 hours. If an album, or artist, has previously been selected within a x day period, the next highest album is picked instead (and so on) to ensure a bit of variety. A full history of album of the day can be viewed here.
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Imo the last truly truly great Jazz-album.
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raadfactoryxny wrote:
Imo the last truly truly great Jazz-album.


No. For starters, here are five truly great jazz albums released after this from the early 70s alone:

Alice Coltrane: Journey In Satchidananda, Universal Consciousness
Herbie Hancock: Sextant
Miles Davis: On The Corner
Pharoah Sanders: Black Unity
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It's a great album, but not that great... it's not even in Miles' top 5 (maybe even 10) IMO, let alone compared to the rest of jazz. Groundbreaking, yes, but Miles alone had equally groundbreaking albums that were structurally and sonically superior.
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baystateoftheart wrote:
No. For starters, here are five truly great jazz albums released after this from the early 70s alone:

Alice Coltrane: Journey In Satchidananda, Universal Consciousness
Herbie Hancock: Sextant
Miles Davis: On The Corner
Pharoah Sanders: Black Unity


Uh yes, it is the last one IMO.
I considered the Sextant album, but for me the first two tracks are 5/5, whereas the other two is 4-4.5/5.

JTS,UC feels a tooth too weak or typical in comparison with BB, or even her brother's significant A Love Supreme. I give it a 4.5/5

On The Corner is great, not truly great or a masterpiece, aside from a few key tracks on side A. Funk wasn't the most fitting suit for Miles.

As of Black Unity still a solid release, but mr. Sanders imo embraced his true colors on Jewels of Thought and Karma, and I still prefer BB to those two.

(Btw, where's the last one)

In short, all of those albums rocks, but none of them are as demanding as this body of work. Smile Shocked
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raadfactoryxny wrote:
baystateoftheart wrote:
No. For starters, here are five truly great jazz albums released after this from the early 70s alone:

Alice Coltrane: Journey In Satchidananda, Universal Consciousness
Herbie Hancock: Sextant
Miles Davis: On The Corner
Pharoah Sanders: Black Unity


JTS,UC feels a tooth too weak or typical in comparison with BB, or even her brother's significant A Love Supreme. I give it a 4.5/5

(Btw, where's the last one)

baystateoftheart wrote:
Alice Coltrane: Journey In Satchidananda, Universal Consciousness

Two albums. Oops!

raadfactoryxny wrote:
Imo the last truly truly great Jazz-album.

Calling Bitches Brew the last truly great jazz album to a serious jazz fan is like calling London Calling is the last truly great rock album.
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raadfactoryxny wrote:
baystateoftheart wrote:
No. For starters, here are five truly great jazz albums released after this from the early 70s alone:

Alice Coltrane: Journey In Satchidananda, Universal Consciousness
Herbie Hancock: Sextant
Miles Davis: On The Corner
Pharoah Sanders: Black Unity


Uh yes, it is the last one IMO.
I considered the Sextant album, but for me the first two tracks are 5/5, whereas the other two is 4-4.5/5.

JTS,UC feels a tooth too weak or typical in comparison with BB, or even her brother's significant A Love Supreme. I give it a 4.5/5

On The Corner is great, not truly great or a masterpiece, aside from a few key tracks on side A. Funk wasn't the most fitting suit for Miles.

As of Black Unity still a solid release, but mr. Sanders imo embraced his true colors on Jewels of Thought and Karma, and I still prefer BB to those two.

(Btw, where's the last one)

In short, all of those albums rocks, but none of them are as demanding as this body of work. Smile Shocked


Those are two different albums I listed by Alice Coltrane, so five total. And they were husband and wife, not brother and sister. I think we have different definitions of truly great. To me, 4.5/5 is definitely enough.
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PurpleHazel wrote:
Two albums. Oops!


My (stupid) bad (move), unfortunately, I haven't heard Universal Consciousness, so I'm gonna hear it in a little while Laughing
Along with the other albums, 'cause they're good.

PurpleHazel wrote:
Calling Bitches Brew the last truly great jazz album to a serious jazz fan is like calling London Calling is the last truly great rock album.


Good point of view. But in contrast to you guys, I'm not that into Jazz as much (haven't listened to many albums outside, so I most obviously could change opinion). Let alone know as much about the genre as you. I hope you don't take my opinion for granted. And I didn't really call it to a serious jazz fan, I stated it on the "Album of the day" post of the site.
Oh and I mistaked Sextant with Head Hunters. That means I haven't heard Sextant either. Sorry. If you have more recommendations, please feel free to share Very Happy !
If I advice you to anything to take away from my original comment, it is a call from a guy who wants to get more into Jazz, and a serious Jazz fan must know where to go, ya know?
Until then, what makes these records stand up as great as the amusement, experimentation, grandiosity of the album whose post we're discussing under rn??
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baystateoftheart wrote:
raadfactoryxny wrote:
baystateoftheart wrote:
No. For starters, here are five truly great jazz albums released after this from the early 70s alone:

Alice Coltrane: Journey In Satchidananda, Universal Consciousness
Herbie Hancock: Sextant
Miles Davis: On The Corner
Pharoah Sanders: Black Unity


Uh yes, it is the last one IMO.
I considered the Sextant album, but for me the first two tracks are 5/5, whereas the other two is 4-4.5/5.

JTS,UC feels a tooth too weak or typical in comparison with BB, or even her brother's significant A Love Supreme. I give it a 4.5/5

On The Corner is great, not truly great or a masterpiece, aside from a few key tracks on side A. Funk wasn't the most fitting suit for Miles.

As of Black Unity still a solid release, but mr. Sanders imo embraced his true colors on Jewels of Thought and Karma, and I still prefer BB to those two.

(Btw, where's the last one)

In short, all of those albums rocks, but none of them are as demanding as this body of work. Smile Shocked


Those are two different albums I listed by Alice Coltrane, so five total. And they were husband and wife, not brother and sister. I think we have different definitions of truly great. To me, 4.5/5 is definitely enough.


Just goes to show how little I know of Jazz in comparison with Rock, R&B, Hip Hop etc.
4.5/5 = truly great
5/5 = truly truly great
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Glad you could get two new albums to try from this discussion Very Happy

I don’t consider myself a “serious jazz fan,” and don’t feel like I have the knowledge to adequately compare those five to Bitches Brew, but there are definitely some folks on BEA who fit the description. Perhaps they could give you more post-1970 recs.
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