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Poll: Which song is better?
Amorphis - The Golden Elk
52%
 52%  [11]
Beyonce - Freedom
47%
 47%  [10]
Total Votes : 21

babyBlueSedan
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  • #1
  • Posted: 10/04/2020 03:18
  • Post subject: 2015-2019 Round 1: Amorphis vs Beyonce
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Freedom by Beyonce


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Year: 2016
Nominating user: RoundTheBend

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The Golden Elk by Amorphis


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Year: 2018
Nominating user: LedZep

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RoundTheBend
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  • #2
  • Posted: 10/04/2020 06:10
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Don't watch this for sound quality but the social impact.

Having said that I think it's badass she uses live musicians instead of pre-recorded stuff. I think Netflix has a live show of hers I started watching and the live band was pretty rad.

From the 1940s with Josh White crying for "democracy without the colored line" till now with stuff like this...damn... it's time to cash that check.


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LedZep

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  • #3
  • Posted: 10/04/2020 07:50
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The Golden Elk is like the ultimate anti-BEA pick. Folk/prog melodeath with high quality production, huge, almost power metal chorus and a story about a mythical being from Kalevala. Itโ€™s the catchiest song Iโ€™ve heard in the last several years.
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RoundTheBend
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  • #4
  • Posted: 10/04/2020 14:57
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LedZep wrote:
The Golden Elk is like the ultimate anti-BEA pick. Folk/prog melodeath with high quality production, huge, almost power metal chorus and a story about a mythical being from Kalevala. Itโ€™s the catchiest song Iโ€™ve heard in the last several years.


I liked it.

I need to figure out how to take metal vocals seriously, though. The musicianship and build up for metal is always fantastic (sometimes I just wish they were mostly instrumental bands) and then they start singing.

Having said that, this singer is one of the better ones. Glad I got a listen ๐Ÿ˜Ž .
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  • #5
  • Posted: 10/04/2020 17:40
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Not prog-era Amorphis' best, but still up there. I'd put this song in their top 15 easy. I like it way more than I like the Beyonce pick.
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  • Posted: 10/04/2020 18:43
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It's not an opinion I see often, but I think Lemonade has generally aged pretty poorly, with a bit too much genre-hopping and a lot very obvious single-issue songwriting that feels very consciously and very overtly anthemic. A lot of stuff here feels like self-aware, focus group tested, blockbuster pop music made with the intention of appealing to the widest cross-section of society possible, losing some of Beyoncรฉ's personality in the process. It's certainly less interesting to me than the two albums that preceded it, which were subtler and more creative in their songwriting and just sonically riskier, bending mainstream R'n'B to their will without making total concessions to commerciality, which sounds crazy given the protagonist, but perhaps less so when we consider how Lemonade allowed her to position herself as a flawless deity whose every move is carefully calculated not only to keep up this image but also to garner maximum attention whilst giving very little away. Her image - and, in all fairness, her deserved privacy - mean that she is now utterly risk-averse as an artist, and songs like 'Freedom', whilst admirable in terms of message, scope, ambition, and even performance, leave me with the same empty ambivalence that I get from watching another competent but ultimately formulaic Marvel film. It is great blockbuster pop music that achieves everything it sets out to, and if it can affect hearts and minds or nudge people in the right direction then its value is obvious, but as a piece of music it just feels so deeply impersonal and unspecific to me that I really struggle to connect with it. I enjoyed it massively when it came out, but have only realised over the years how much its charms have worn off, suggesting that any connection I did have with it was based on surface level thrills which haven't held up over subsequent relistens.

The other song has oodles of personality, but also a sound which is so far out of my comfort zone that it gives me nothing whatsoever to cling to. I'll probably abstain.
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RoundTheBend
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  • #7
  • Posted: 10/04/2020 20:57
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LedZep

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  • #8
  • Posted: 10/04/2020 22:23
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Gowi wrote:
Not prog-era Amorphis' best, but still up there. I'd put this song in their top 15 easy. I like it way more than I like the Beyonce pick.

Really curious about your Amorphis rankings, both albums and songs. Most of the people I've talked with don't care either about their early more extreme phase, or their newer prog wank phase.

Skinny wrote:
The other song has oodles of personality, but also a sound which is so far out of my comfort zone that it gives me nothing whatsoever to cling to. I'll probably abstain.

It's more anti-Skinny than anti-BEA it seems.

Edit: The Golden Elk is from 2018 not 2019
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mickilennial
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  • Posted: 10/05/2020 01:23
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LedZep wrote:
Really curious about your Amorphis rankings, both albums and songs. Most of the people I've talked with don't care either about their early more extreme phase, or their newer prog wank phase.

It's more anti-Skinny than anti-BEA it seems.

Edit: The Golden Elk is from 2018 not 2019

In terms of albums because that's easier:

Skyforger
Silent Waters
Tales from the Thousand Lakes
Eclipse
Elegy

The Beginning of Times
Under a Red Cloud
Queen of Time
Circle
The Karelian Isthmus

Tuonela
Far From the Sun
Am Universum
babyBlueSedan
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  • #10
  • Posted: 10/07/2020 02:14
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Freedom isn't my favorite track from Lemonade (All Night!) but I still think it's pretty good. Enjoyed this Amorphis track enough to finally throw Tales From the Thousand Lakes on my to-listen list, though I guess that one might not sound much like this?

Went with Beyonce in the end.
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