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- #11
- Posted: 09/10/2013 01:44
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jman, stop saying the n word, but thanks for posting in this thread
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creator
Age: 38
Location: chicago 
- #12
- Posted: 09/10/2013 01:54
- Post subject: Re: What defines post-hardcore?
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| rayword45 wrote: |
"Hardcore post-punk" works for bands like Fugazi, The Jesus Lizard, Big Black and Slint, along with many others. Those I understand the post-hardcore tag.
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Close! It's post-hardcore punk. 
Most post-hardcore bands take the energy from hardcore punk bands (Black Flag, Dead Kennedys, Bad Brains) and combine it with elements from other genres like experimental rock, post punk, etc. I've always considered it more melodic than hardcore punk.
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- #13
- Posted: 09/10/2013 02:02
- Post subject: Re: What defines post-hardcore?
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| creator wrote: | Close! It's post-hardcore punk.
Most post-hardcore bands take the energy from hardcore punk bands (Black Flag, Dead Kennedys, Bad Brains) and combine it with elements from other genres like experimental rock, post punk, etc. I've always considered it more melodic than hardcore punk. |
This is an excellent definition.
Also, it's kind of funny you metioned emo in your initial post rayword, since post-hardcore had one of the first, if not the first, emo band in Rites of Spring, whose lead singer Guy Picciotto was also in Fugazi. They're only album is excellent. But really, post-hardcore is in a lot of ways a more experimental version of hardcore. It's often not as fast and the vocals aren't always a scream (that's not a knock against hardcore though). It's a genre that just ecompases a lot of bands and a lot of sounds. For example, Dismemberment Plan and Fugazi are both labeled Post-Hardcore, but they sound very little a like.
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rayword45
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- #14
- Posted: 09/10/2013 02:24
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And then all those Rise Records bands that have the same label?
When I use emo as a pejorative, I think modern emo music. I wouldn't compare Sunny Day Real Estate or Rites of Spring to anything teenage goth chicks today listen to.
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rayword45
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- #15
- Posted: 09/10/2013 02:25
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And then all those Rise Records bands that have the same label?
When I use emo as a pejorative, I think modern emo music. I wouldn't compare Sunny Day Real Estate or Rites of Spring to anything teenage goth chicks today listen to.
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Age: 38
Location: chicago
- #16
- Posted: 09/10/2013 02:49
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| rayword45 wrote: | | And then all those Rise Records bands that have the same label? |
Those bands are partially influenced by post-hardcore bands like Refused and At the Drive-In, so they experience hardcore-punk secondhand; however, they replace the post-punk or experimental aspects with metal breakdowns and pop punk choruses. The energy is still there, but it's more Metallica than Wire.
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19loveless91
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- #17
- Posted: 09/10/2013 04:55
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JMan needs to do genre based custom charts. Without getting informed about the genres first, just going by his idea of them.
It would be the best thing ever.
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- #18
- Posted: 09/10/2013 05:01
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Best Ever Reggae by JMan
*Innervisions at #1*
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MrFrogger
Where am I
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Location: Oakland
- #19
- Posted: 09/10/2013 05:11
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| 19loveless91 wrote: | JMan needs to do genre based custom charts. Without getting informed about the genres first, just going by his idea of them.
It would be the best thing ever. |
http://www.besteveralbums.com/thechart.php?c=11714
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