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  • Posted: 12/13/2013 19:44
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JMan wrote:
The problem with that is that I need to understand genres in order to give better ratings and like them. I didn't understand shoegaze when I first heard loveless, and I almost hated it as a result. Once I better understood shoegaze through MBV, I loved Loveless. I need to understand genres or else I rate everything thinking with the mind of a major rock fan and I can't grow.



You don't need to understand genres to rate an album. Did you like it? How much did you like it? That's as simple as ratings have to be. And people who look at ratings are wanting to know: did you enjoy it? You don't have to understand shoegaze to enjoy My Bloody Valentine...if you enjoy My Bloody Valentine, you will likely enjoy shoegaze. Your obsession with genres is making you think in terms of what label to put on music, and you're thinking more in terms of that over what you are actually hearing. The genre should be important in finding artists that sound like artists you already like...the genre should not be a determining factor in whether or not you like an album, and how you would rate it. Doing so is limiting yourself more that thinking with the mind of a major rock fan, and it's limiting your growth.

You should be rating (if you have to) and listening in simple terms: do you like what you hear? You are taking something that you are really very new at and overcomplicating it to an extreme. Forget about what genre or genres the album fits into. It's really irrelevant for the most part. The simple question is: do you like it? And if you do, then maybe use the the basic genre to guide you to similar music. But using genre tags as part of your rating system is only making things difficult for yourself, and the people who look at ratings aren't caring about that. The main, #1 purpose for music in your life should be enjoyment. I recommend that you rate according to that one factor: enjoyment. Music isn't supposed to be complicated like that.


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Salesmen And Racists by Ike Reilly


Ike is a storyteller, and a damn fine songwriter. This is a great album, one that his label had no idea what to do with...so it died a silent death. Reilly is now to Chicago what Bob Seger once was to Detroit. The best kept secret.
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  • Posted: 12/13/2013 19:52
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sethswa8 wrote:
Intresteing if I'm not mistaken Zorn was one of Polly Bradfield's closed musical associates idk if you've ever hear d "Sacred Guitar and Violin of the Modern Aztecs but it was a big influence on alot "improvisers" of that scene (including Bradfield and Zorn) I'm really curious to know what you'd think of it if you're intrested


You're correct. Both are undeniably talented and have played important roles in music history. I just find that a lot of experimental music serves a more important role to musicians than the general public. They open new doors and provide the ideas by which future musicians may form into more listenable music. It's sort of like how a painter may develop a new technique but become so focused on the technique that the product they create is not all that aesthetically pleasing. But a follower will come along and run with that style and turn it into something brilliant. We need both.

I'm liking this "Sacred Guitar and Violin of the Modern Aztecs" quite a bit more than Polly.
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meccalecca wrote:
You're correct. Both are undeniably talented and have played important roles in music history. I just find that a lot of experimental music serves a more important role to musicians than the general public. They open new doors and provide the ideas by which future musicians may form into more listenable music. It's sort of like how a painter may develop a new technique but become so focused on the technique that the product they create is not all that aesthetically pleasing. But a follower will come along and run with that style and turn it into something brilliant. We need both.

I'm liking this "Sacred Guitar and Violin of the Modern Aztecs" quite a bit more than Polly.



I agree unfortunately they will never get this appreciaten they desrve simply because nothing sounds like it if you look at her wiki page you can see the impact she had on other musicians http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polly_Bradfield#Remarks_from_other_musicians

I'm glad you understand and yea Sacred Guitar/Violin is awesome currently in my top ten 😉
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