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For artists that I think will get bigger, Sicko Mobb comes to mind

Could definitely see "Remember Me" becoming an essential track
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  • Posted: 10/08/2015 19:01
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The classics are the ones that stick with you, bro. You think anybody here can really read the tea leaves of "mainstream culture" and tell you what the mags will be gushing about in 30 years? It's for shit anyway.
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I'm okay with iris becoming the next "Don't Stop Believing", it's an absolute tune.
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You guys know how to stay on topic, pause, naht. Future classics... There won't be radio in the future, there will only be personal opinion which will be increasingly fragmented. Actually, scratch that, we don't know what the future will be like. But we do know there will be no such thing as classic. Except Beethoven. And the Beatles. And Kanye, Kendrick and maybe even Katy.
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jhuik wrote:
Kendrick and maybe even Katy.


i don't think Kendrick has made enough to be on this level yet, but he's obviously the latest contender for the title. i'm curious about Katy being chosen at all, but i would also counter that if a mainstream pop presence is going to make it, it'll likely be Taylor Swift, just because of her status as a songwriter, which critical communities tend to prefer, and her resulting less synthetic image, something a lot of "mainstream" listeners embrace.
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Agree on Taylor Swift. Not a fan, nor have I ever been. Although I do like Blank Space a lot. But she has skyrocketed. Like it's crazy because she's always been a very popular performer, but she is selling out football stadiums every night.


On the topic of Kendrick Lamar. I love his music. I think TPAB is one of the finest and most ambitious albums ever. But I agree we have to hear a bit more work before he reaches a potential classic status himself.


So here's a question. Let's say Kendrick (lord forbid) goes out Hendrix style anytime soon and we only have his current catalog to survey. What then?
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AAL2014 wrote:
So here's a question. Let's say Kendrick (lord forbid) goes out Hendrix style anytime soon and we only have his current catalog to survey. What then?


His current catalogue would come to be held in similar esteem, I would think.
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This is only for Neil to answer

How do you think Drake, Future, and Lil Wayne will end up fairing with any of their projects ending up in the realm of classics?
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Precedent wrote:
This is only for Neil to answer

How do you think Drake, Future, and Lil Wayne will end up fairing with any of their projects ending up in the realm of classics?


Dunno, everything ends up being a classic to somebody. I think Take Care will hold up very well, and largely be looked back upon as a great record. Future, despite his current commercial success, still feels like a far more niche artist, and it's difficult to say how highly regarded his stuff will be - I don't think his earlier albums will hold up particularly well, and the hazy trap sound of DS2 could end up being thought of as 'faddy', in the same way crunk was, although I'd like to think that it will retain a cult classic status in the same way that early Three 6 Mafia has done, even though it is clearly a very different prospect given DS2's massive, nationwide (in America) commercial success. Lil Wayne is already seen as less divisive than he was - at his peak, he was either the greatest rapper alive or all four horsemen of the hip-hop apocalypse rolled into one, whereas now he seems to be widely regarded as a very prolific, pretty odd, extremely talented rapper who (for a brief time) was the most exciting hip-hop artist in the world. I think his strongest retail release (not to mention probably his biggest, and therefore the one with the most chance of being regarded as a classic in the future), Tha Carter III, is fantastic, but I would also find it difficult to dismiss the criticism of it as uneven and unfocused, if not guilty of overly pandering to a mainstream audience ('Lollipop', anyone?), but I could see it being thought of in the same way as the better Jay-Z albums in between Reasonable Doubt and The Blueprint are, i.e. a very good album with some extremely memorable moments whose ambition probably outstrips its overall content.

Will the three be looked back upon as classic rappers? I'd wager yes. Will they all have releases that are widely regarded as classics? Probably not, but I'd say Take Care has the best chance. Difficult to say, of course, but those are my opinions on the matter.
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