"Dissonant" is a silly term, a pseudonym for "I don't like it"
Wouldn't say it's a silly term, because it has a technical, factual meaning. It's the people who use it as a euphemism for "bad" or "unlistenable" who are silly.
1. Black Saint And The Sinner Lady
2. A Love Supreme
3. Kind Of Blue
4. Mingus Ah Um
5. In A Silent Way
6. Karma
7. Art Blakey
8. Soulville
9. Lorrach / Paris
10. Sarah Vaughan
Bitches Brew is fine, but 3 Miles albums is overkill. That Ayler record is really a leftfield choices considering Coleman and Monk aren't in the mix. _________________ Doubles & Conch
Ayler is great tho, it makes sense he would be in a top 10. Though if anyone had voted for Chappaqua Suite, either of the At The Golden Circle releases, any of the harmolodic stuff, or Science Fiction, I might've just left my Ayler pick as Ear and Eye Control and thrown my weight toward getting Coleman in the top 10 because he is great. I'm really not as hot on The Shape Of Jazz To Come as people seem to be tho so I couldn't get behind that.
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I listened to the Art Blakey and Albert Ayler albums for the first time this morning.
Art Blakey is a fine drummer and Moanin' is fantastic. The rest of the album didn't drag either.
Albert Ayler - I've heard Spiritual Unity I remember it being a favorable experience. This album is like a trip to Bavaria on acid. I'm hearing faint remnants of traditional German music hidden in free jazz - and the first time I've heard bowed double bass in jazz. It's quite the unique work. I dig the melodies and how it's purposely off-kiltered.
I mean that's an ignorant fool's take on it at least.
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I think this is my final vote... I may edit later, but first assessment:
1 Ben Webster - Soulville
2 In A Silent Way by Miles Davis
3 Mingus Ah Um by Charles Mingus
4 Kind Of Blue by Miles Davis
5 The Black Saint And The Sinner Lady by Charles Mingus
6 Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers by Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers
7 A Love Supreme by John Coltrane
8 Lörrach / Paris 1966 by Albert Ayler
9 Karma by Pharoah Sanders
10 Bitches Brew by Miles Davis
11 Sarah Vaughan by Sarah Vaughan
An Idiot Reviews Jazz:
1. My heart and soul has always been in this type of music and this is just the Jazz version of it. I feel a little like it's cheating somehow, but I don't care... it's easily my favorite style of Jazz.
2. I love the ambient styles discovered here, but also the clearly Jazz side of it. I put it on and I go somewhere new.
3. I feel like this is the most oomph for lack of better description and I like a bombastic oomph in my music. I love the drumming, I love how it has it's solo efforts, but also feel the instruments really build off each other in ways very tangible.
4. This is the definition of "perfect" Jazz somehow. It's just perfect. It's even tempered, calculated, all parts feel equal, etc. But I don't like perfect music as much as I do soulful, surreal, or bombastic music, so this takes 4th.
5. I'm very curious to see/hear/learn more about the ballet this was supposed to accompany. Also, while I love some of the things explored here and it totally meets that bombastic flair I love, it goes a little too far out on a limb for me. Some limbs are fun to discover, and somehow I didn't want to do this one. Although I do love the baritone rumbles on this. It'd be a favorite if some of the grating aspects of it were somehow something I wanted (I have no problem with grating music, this somehow got too close to the bone though). Personal space man. Also, I love how this enters a very serious musical endeavor above all the others... idk... maybe with time. Only 6th or so listen.
6. This was my second listen ever. I could see this grow on me even more. It was good, but I never really got crazy about anything.
7. I'm embarrassed by how low this is on this chart, but oh well. I've really only heard this album 5 or 6 times and while it has this amazing energy too it, I've yet to really fall in love with it. I was checking the comments on the album page and it seems a few are the same boat... it must be an amazing grower.
8. Like I said before, I feel like I'm tripping real hard at an Oktoberfest. I do really like that aspect of it, and the melodies - it's fun and trippy at the same time and heart warming like a good Oktoberfest should be - love and song and dance. I really love the violin work the most on it... I can't pinpoint where I've heard those styles before, but it was reminiscent of stuff I really like. I mentioned Oktoberfest, but it also could sound like a really sombre Latin or New Orleans thing too. Idk... it's a trip for sure.
9. More to follow
10. More to follow
11. I just couldn't get into this for some reason - my expectations are off I suppose. I'd replace this with Billie Holiday anytime. I wasn't a fan of some of the sexist stuff in it, but I suppose you gotta realize the era.
I know absolutely nothing about jazz, so I find it impressive the way you guys talk about it and know so much about it. But I have a question? Why is vocal jazz not more popular? The only one I see here is Sarah Vaughan. Is it because the music on vocal jazz records is considered not as good as non-vocal? Is it considered some kind of pop music or something? Is it considered not serious or something? Maybe somebody could explain for me. Anyway, these are the only Jazz records I've ever owned in my entire life. I always say I'm going to try to get more into it but I never do. No particular reason, I just don't do it.
I know absolutely nothing about jazz, so I find it impressive the way you guys talk about it and know so much about it. But I have a question? Why is vocal jazz not more popular? The only one I see here is Sarah Vaughan. Is it because the music on vocal jazz records is considered not as good as non-vocal? Is it considered some kind of pop music or something? Is it considered not serious or something? Maybe somebody could explain for me. Anyway, these are the only Jazz records I've ever owned in my entire life. I always say I'm going to try to get more into it but I never do. No particular reason, I just don't do it.
I won't claim to really know anything, but this is my experience:
1) Billie Holiday's vocal jazz (the early stuff) changed my life and I voted for it.
2) Vocal jazz is just as important to Jazz history as any other form, according to the Ken Burns special (link in OP).
What I learned from that special is supposedly Louis Armstrong invented scat singing because he dropped the lyrics to sing during recording, and got the signal to just keep going cause recording was expensive, and so he scat sang in place. Who knows if that's actually true.
But what I can only guess is that Jazz singing really didn't stay popular into the Album era as much, and that discussion kind of happened a few pages back on jazz/album era starting.
Swing was big on vocals too.
Why folks into Jazz on this site don't like that stuff as much... well that's for them to say. I suppose I can speak for myself and say some of the non-vocal Jazz really is the higher quality stuff. But that isn't to say there aren't gems that have vocals. Also, I think PurpleHazel alluded to this earlier, some of the Jazz recordings pre-1950 aren't that great, so sometimes the recording makes it sound corny or what have you.
Just some ramblings.
Also cool list - you are still welcome to listen to the top 10 and choose from those your favorites in the final round of voting "going on" right now.
I know absolutely nothing about jazz, so I find it impressive the way you guys talk about it and know so much about it. But I have a question? Why is vocal jazz not more popular? The only one I see here is Sarah Vaughan. Is it because the music on vocal jazz records is considered not as good as non-vocal? Is it considered some kind of pop music or something? Is it considered not serious or something? Maybe somebody could explain for me. Anyway, these are the only Jazz records I've ever owned in my entire life. I always say I'm going to try to get more into it but I never do. No particular reason, I just don't do it.
I won't claim to really know anything, but this is my experience:
1) Billie Holiday's vocal jazz (the early stuff) changed my life and I voted for it.
2) Vocal jazz is just as important to Jazz history as any other form, according to the Ken Burns special (link in OP).
What I learned from that special is supposedly Louis Armstrong invented scat singing because he dropped the lyrics to sing during recording, and got the signal to just keep going cause recording was expensive, and so he scat sang in place. Who knows if that's actually true.
But what I can only guess is that Jazz singing really didn't stay popular into the Album era as much, and that discussion kind of happened a few pages back on jazz/album era starting.
Swing was big on vocals too.
Why folks into Jazz on this site don't like that stuff as much... well that's for them to say. I suppose I can speak for myself and say some of the non-vocal Jazz really is the higher quality stuff. But that isn't to say there aren't gems that have vocals. Also, I think PurpleHazel alluded to this earlier, some of the Jazz recordings pre-1950 aren't that great, so sometimes the recording makes it sound corny or what have you.
Just some ramblings.
Also cool list - you are still welcome to listen to the top 10 and choose from those your favorites in the final round of voting "going on" right now.
Oh, okay. Makes sense. It looks like the most highly acclaimed stuff is horn jazz like trumpet and saxophone. Maybe the reason I'm not attracted to a lot of these popular artists because I haven't gotten into that kind of jazz yet. Which reminds me that the kind of jazz I most attracted to besides old vocal jazz is piano jazz. Although again, it doesn't seem very popular around here. And I forgot about these piano ones that I really like. My parents had these and I always enjoyed them.
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