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| Poll: Please listen to both albums in full before voting, then choose your favorite. |
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| Joy As An Act Of Resistance. by Idles |
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53% |
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| Be The Cowboy by Mitski |
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46% |
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| Total Votes : 28 |
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baystateoftheart
Neil Young as a butternut squash
Age: 30
Location: Massachusetts 
- #21
- Posted: 08/07/2019 02:27
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| CryingGameDahlin wrote: | | trying very hard to be the Next Great Album of it's day and not quite covering all the corners while doing so |
I could be wrong, but based on the interviews I've seen, I bet Mitski would disagree that that was in any way a goal of this album.
In any case, I typically rate albums based on how much I like their sounds and not how much they live up to what I think they were going for or how much they "work" as albums.
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Repo
BeA Sunflower
Location: Forest Park
- #22
- Posted: 08/07/2019 02:29
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| baystateoftheart wrote: | | I could be wrong, but based on the interviews I've seen, I bet Mitski would disagree that that was in any way a goal of this album. |
I actually got the same sense as CGD. Still a great album, but it certainly striving a bit to be THE album of 2018 and it mostly succeeds.
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mickilennial
The Most Trusted Name in News
Gender: Female
Age: 36
Location: Detroit 
- #23
- Posted: 08/07/2019 06:35
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| baystateoftheart wrote: | | It was the most popular idea for tiebreakers when I solicited feedback last year. What’s your suggestion? |
i dont really have a suggestion but merely a complaint.
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cestuneblague
Eyebrow of the Hurricane
Location: Chi-Town
- #24
- Posted: 08/09/2019 18:28
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| baystateoftheart wrote: | I could be wrong, but based on the interviews I've seen, I bet Mitski would disagree that that was in any way a goal of this album.
In any case, I typically rate albums based on how much I like their sounds and not how much they live up to what I think they were going for or how much they "work" as albums. |
No I'm not saying there's anything wrong with ambition, and yes I do think even with it's brevity in running time Be the Cowboy is a very ambitious record that's trying to take the introspective themes of her earlier records towards a grander and universal take on modern american identity & isolation, certainly all the more interesting because of her own mixed national background. Now obviously how something works or doesn't as an entire album is not easily dissectable because it's different for what each artist is trying to do, and yes I do think there is a certain difference between the craft of a song and that of an album and that a lot of great songs or musical moments doesn't automatically make a great record, but again that take is situationally based with every individual listener and release on what does or doesn't work about it. And maybe that's kind of my issue with this record in particular is that I'm not quite sure why it doesn't quite gel at the end, yes I mean some songs feel a bit kind of have-cake-eat-it where they want to have a sense of slowly-building grandeur but then all of a sudden turn into something purposefully modest & intimate that leads to some awkward, unfocused numbers, but really there just seems to be something missing here, I donno a certain song, a string of ideas or that there just isn't quite a center to the album despite the clearer sense of thematic purpose. I donno, maybe just super high expectations after Puberty 2 (which would get my vote in any 2016 matchup) exaggherated my own dissapointment.
But yes in the end it feels like I'm bagging on the album too much when I really did love a strong amount of the material and would probably vote for it over most of the albums in the tournament, but what can I say I did love Idles' album even if I can understand those who have a mirror-image take on both works as well.
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baystateoftheart
Neil Young as a butternut squash
Age: 30
Location: Massachusetts
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