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Hayden
Location: Vietnam 
- #31
- Posted: 03/09/2025 17:03
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Letterboxd.
Tidbits & Stats
Annual breakdown—
50: 10
51: 8
52: 8
53: 8
54: 10
55: 11
56: 10
57: 12
58: 9
59: 14
Countries represented: 11
Best Picture Winners: 4
Palme D'or Winners: 4
Animated Films: 1
Documentaries: 1
Highest ranking film not on the original list—
Ashes and Diamonds (#51)
This list features 4 films over 3 hours long (the longest of which is Ben-hur at 222 minutes).
The director who appeared on the list with the most films is Alfred Hitchcock (6), but in this contested fight for the 50s crown, here are the stats of notable director representation—
6 films: Hitchcock
5 films: Billy Wilder, Kurosawa
4 films: Satyajit Ray, Kazan
3 films: Bergman, Nicholas Ray, Kenji Mizoguchi, Bresson, Ophüls
—Nobody had the same #1 film, and everybody's #1 film made the list.
—Vertigo appeared on every list.
—Dual Palme D'or & Best Picture winner Marty was... umm... nowhere close
—Japan holds a fair share of the list, with 15 entries represented
Personal notes—
I'm very fond of our final result, but I still have a small snub-list of films I truly believe should be on here—
-Kanal
-Crazed Fruit
-The Flavour of Green Tea Over Rice
-Good Morning
-La Pointe Courte
(All very good films that I hope BEA watches at somepoint or another)
I apologize for not creating custom posters this time around. I haven't had the time. If I think of some ideas, I'll do it though.
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CA Dreamin
Gender: Male
Location: LA 
- #32
- Posted: 03/09/2025 17:38
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As per usual, the old list vs. new list comparison:
OLD LIST:
1. Vertigo (no change)
2. The Seventh Seal -6
3. Sunset Boulevard +1
4. 12 Angry Men -3
5. Rashomon (no change)
6. Touch of Evil -13
7. Rear Window +3
8. Singin' in the Rain -34
9. Seven Samurai +6
10. North by Northwest +1
11. The Searchers -35
12. On the Waterfront -24
13. All About Eve -7
14. Diabolique -11
15. The 400 Blows -17
16. Some Like it Hot +5
17. Wild Strawberries +3
18. Paths of Glory +5
19. Nights of Cabiria +2
20. The Night of the Hunter -1
21. Ikiru +15
22. Tokyo Story +12
23. Strangers on a Train +8
24. The Music Room -42
25. Roman Holiday -18
26. Rebel Without a Cause -7
27. Ugetsu -23
28. Mon Oncle -56
29. The Wages of Fear +17
30. Witness for the Prosecution +7
31. East of Eden -26
32. The Killing -8
33. La Strada -1
34. Harvey -30
35. Anatomy of a Murder -17
36. Ordet +5
37. The Hidden Fortress -34
38. High Noon +10
39. Umberto D. +9
40. Hiroshima Mon Amour +22
41. Monsieur Hulot's Holiday (LEFT)
42. The African Queen -45
43. The Human Condition I -17
44. Pather Panchali +17
45. Aparajito -18
46. Ace in the Hole +30
47. Pickpocket -27
48. Giant (LEFT)
49. Night and Fog -27
50. Johnny Guitar +5
51. Apur Sansar +22
52. The Life of Oharu -20
53. Diary of a Country Priest -8
54. Limelight +13
55. Othello (LEFT)
56. Sansho the Bailiff +17
57. The Ladykillers -35
58. The Seven Year Itch (LEFT)
59. Sweet Smell of Success +35
60. The Cranes Are Flying +12
61. Stalag 17 -37
62. A Face in the Crowd +3
63. The Human Condition II -12
64. In a Lonely Place +38
65. Sabrina (LEFT)
66. Los Olvidados +8
67. The Asphalt Jungle -22
68. From Here to Eternity (LEFT)
69. La Ronde -28
70. Throne of Blood +35
71. The Big Heat +22
72. Moonfleet (LEFT)
73. The Bridge on the River Kwai +19
74. Invasion of the Body Snatchers +30
75. Elevator to the Gallows +53
76. Night and the City -23
77. An American in Paris (LEFT)
78. Rio Bravo +11
79. The Day the Earth Stood Still +24
80. Orpheus +43
81. The Lavender Hill Mob (LEFT)
82. The Naked Spur (LEFT)
83. The Wrong Man (LEFT)
84. A Streetcar Named Desire +19
85. Seven Brides for Seven Brothers (LEFT)
86. A Man Escaped +39
87. Cat on a Hot Tin Roof -7
88. The Bad and the Beautiful (LEFT)
89. Kanal (LEFT)
90. Rififi +28
91. Dial M for Murder +53
92. Marty (LEFT)
93. Cairo Station (LEFT)
94. A Place in the Sun (LEFT)
95. The Burmese Harp (LEFT)
96. Floating Clouds (LEFT)
97. The Earrings of Madame de... +42
98. Floating Weeds (LEFT)
99. The Red Balloon (LEFT)
100. The Idiot (LEFT)
NEW LIST
1. Vertigo (no change)
2. Sunset Boulevard +1
3. Seven Samurai +6
4. Rear Window +3
5. Rashomon (no change)
6. Ikiru +15
7. 12 Angry Men -3
8. The Seventh Seal -6
9. North by Northwest +1
10. Tokyo Story +12
11. Some Like It Hot +5
12. The Wages of Fear +17
13. Paths of Glory +5
14. Wild Strawberries +3
15. Strangers on a Train +8
16. Ace in the Hole +30
17. Nights of Cabiria +2
18. Hiroshima Mon Amour +22
19. Touch of Evil -13
20. All About Eve -7
21. The Night of the Hunter -1
22. Elevator to the Gallows +53
23. Witness For the Prosecution +7
24. Sweet Smell of Success +35
25. Les Diaboliques -11
26. In a Lonely Place +38
27. Pather Panchali +17
28. High Noon +10
29. Apur Sansar +22
30. Umberto D. +9
31. Ordet +5
32. The 400 Blows -17
33. Rebel Without a Cause -7
34. La Strada -1
35. Throne of Blood +35
36. On the Waterfront -24
37. Orpheus +43
38. Dial M For Murder +53
39. Sansho the Bailiff +17
40. The Killing -8
41. Limelight +13
42. Singin' in the Rain -34
43. Roman Holiday -18
44. Invasion of the Body Snatchers +30
45. Johnny Guitar +5
46. The Searchers -35
47. A Man Escaped +39
48. The Cranes Are Flying +12
49. The Big Heat +22
50. Ugetsu -23
51. Ashes and Diamonds (NEW)
52. Anatomy of a Murder -17
53. Shane (NEW)
54. The Bridge on the River Kwai +19
55t. The Day the Earth Stood Still +24
55t. The Earrings of Madame de... +42
57. East of Eden -26
58. Los Olvidados +8
59. A Face in the Crowd +3
60. The Human Condition I -17
61. Diary of a Country Priest -8
62. Rififi +28
63. Aparajito -18
64. Harvey -30
65. A Streetcar Named Desire +19
66. The Music Room -42
67. Rio Bravo +11
68. The Man Who Knew Too Much (NEW)
69. Night of the Demon (NEW)
70. Twenty-Four Eyes (NEW)
71. The Hidden Fortress -34
72. The Life of Oharu -20
73. Godzilla (NEW)
74. Pickpocket -27
75. Human Condition II -12
76. Night and Fog -27
77. Alice in Wonderland (NEW)
78. Forbidden Games (NEW)
79. Kiss Me Deadly (NEW)
80. Shadows (NEW)
81. Ballad of a Soldier (NEW)
82. Smiles of a Summer Night (NEW)
83. Lola Montes (NEW)
84. Mon Oncle -56
85. Fires on the Plain (NEW)
86. Miracle in Milan (NEW)
87. The African Queen -45
88. Ben-Hur (NEW)
89. The Asphalt Jungle -22
90t. Black Orpheus (NEW)
90t. Written on the Wind (NEW)
92. The Ladykillers -35
93. Sudden Fear (NEW)
94. Cat on a Hot Tin Roof -7
95. The Ten Commandments (NEW)
96. A Star is Born (NEW)
97. La Ronde -28
98. Stalag 17 -37
99. Night and the City -23
100. The Bad Seed (NEW)
Something doesn't seem right though. Currently I have 23 movies listed as new to the current list, but only 22 movies that left the old list. I must've mislabled one. I will edit it once I spot it. And let me know if I made other inaccuracies.
EDIT: Found it, I initially labled Los Olvidados as new to the current list, when it was 8 spots away on the old list. _________________ on such a winter's day
Last edited by CA Dreamin on 03/09/2025 17:42; edited 1 time in total
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Hayden
Location: Vietnam 
- #33
- Posted: 03/09/2025 17:42
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CA Dreamin wrote: | As per usual, the old list vs. new list comparison:
Something doesn't seem right though. Currently I have 23 movies listed as new to the current list, but only 22 movies that left the old list. I must've mislabled one. I will edit it once I spot it. And let me know if I made other inaccuracies. |
58. Los Olvidados (NEW)
(It was on the previous list at #66)
That being said, I messed my tidbit post up. I missed The Cranes are Flying being on the original ... the highest new entry is actually Ashes & Diamonds. Fixed.
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CA Dreamin
Gender: Male
Location: LA 
- #34
- Posted: 03/09/2025 17:44
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Nice, we spotted it at the same time. Thanks for being on top of that. And as always, thanks for hosting this and putting all the time and work in.
I will add notes and comments later. _________________ on such a winter's day
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Hayden
Location: Vietnam 
- #35
- Posted: 03/09/2025 17:48
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CA Dreamin wrote: |
72. Moonfleet (LEFT)
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You know what's wild? It wasn't even submitted. Wasn't on anyone's list.
EDIT: Oh, wow— The Idiot wasn't either. Hadn't even noticed that. Weird.
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AfterHours
Gender: Male
Location: The Zone
- #36
- Posted: 03/09/2025 19:52
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Great job Hayden!
Other than 12 Angry Men, which is certainly a good film but imo very overrated here and letterboxd, I think this is an excellent top 10. Maybe the most worthy (in my estimation) of all the top 10s we’ve had? I’d have to review and compare the others to be sure but it’s great and 11-100 is also full of great selections.
Touch of Evil at 19 is of course too low but that’s a minor complaint _________________ Best Classical
Best Films
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Hayden
Location: Vietnam 
- #37
- Posted: 03/09/2025 20:17
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AfterHours wrote: | Great job Hayden!
Other than 12 Angry Men, which is certainly a good film but imo very overrated here and letterboxd, I think this is an excellent top 10. Maybe the most worthy (in my estimation) of all the top 10s we’ve had? I’d have to review and compare the others to be sure but it’s great and 11-100 is also full of great selections.
Touch of Evil at 19 is of course too low but that’s a minor complaint |
Thanks Afterhours— and I appreciate you pointing out that mistake earlier
Yeah, 12 Angry Men is the highest-rated film of the 50s on LB, as well as the most popular, which is an interesting distinction. I'm quite fond of it, and believe it deserves a spot in our top 10, but I would've been disappointed had it been in the top 2.
The Bad Seed, our #100, is fittingly the lowest LB-ranked film represented, but it's still a pretty solid film, so. (I'm glad it made the cut). Says something about the quality of the list.
Vertigo, our #1, really isn't as popular on Letterboxd. Out of our top 100, it ranked #36 on LB's average rating scale.
The highest-rated film on LB not included was Rio, Zona Norte, closely followed by Tokyo Twilight and Good Morning. Ozu did kinda get stiffed... I mean, dude landed a top 10 film, but that's it, and he has 7-8 great films from the decade. Not sure if he's just not BEA's taste, or he just got a little unlucky with the rankings in lieu of other Japanese films, but I thought we'd see at least three films from him on the board. His batting average on the decade was incredible.
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CA Dreamin
Gender: Male
Location: LA 
- #38
- Posted: 03/10/2025 06:20
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Hayden wrote: | Ozu did kinda get stiffed... I mean, dude landed a top 10 film, but that's it, and he has 7-8 great films from the decade. Not sure if he's just not BEA's taste, or he just got a little unlucky with the rankings in lieu of other Japanese films, but I thought we'd see at least three films from him on the board. His batting average on the decade was incredible. | Ozu lacks a consensus second choice from the 50s. Even on the old list, the only other one I see was Floating Weeds at #98. As for me, he isn't exactly my flavor of green tea. I agree his films are mostly solid, but they're very repetitive. They have similar plot-lines, camera angles, cast of actors/actresses...even the titles of his movies are barely distinguishable from each other. They mostly fall in my 7/10 to 8/10 range. But the only two that stand out to me are Tokyo Story and Flavor of Green Tea Over Rice. I put those high on my list, with Early Spring towards the bottom. But yeah, I'm more of a Mizoguchi and Kurosawa fan, who had 4 and 5 films on my personal list, including my #1, that undeservedly landed at only #50.
Other notes/comments
1. We really didn't like Jacques Tati much this time around. One of his films dropped 56 places. And the other dropped at least 60 (we don't know how many for sure cause it missed the list entirely, the highest-ranked film on the old list that didn't return).
2. Billy Wilder lost Sabrina and The Seven Year Itch from the old list...and still had 5 on the new one. He had 7 on the old list. Incredible. Out of his 5 on the new one, 4 are in the top 25.
3. Only Kurosawa and Hitchcock are in the same league imo. 3 films each in the Top 10. Wow. Yeah, Wilder, Hitchcock, and Kurosawa were the best of the 50s hands down.
4. Well, I'm a big fan of Otto Preminger, whom I'd like to say is among the decade's best. But I understand his films don't have as high a reputation, except Anatomy of a Murder. I put 6 of his movies on my personal list, and only one made the cut. I would have liked to see one or two more, but oh well.
5. We were talking about 50s Westerns. Personally I think the 50s was a great decade for the genre. Yet only 5 made the list. Even weirder is the fact that not a single one was directed by Anthony Mann (um, what?). At least High Noon got a high placement.
6. Great list! _________________ on such a winter's day
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EyeKanFly
Head Bear Master/Galactic Emperor
Age: 34
Location: Gotham 
- #39
- Posted: 03/10/2025 14:46
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Great list overall and thanks Hayden for hosting! And CA Dreamin for the comparison.
Of the films I've seen, the ones that rose or fall (or added or dropped out) between the old and new list seem appropriate me, with the exception of The Human Condition I & II. I'm surprised those fell as much as they did.
My small argument in favor of 12 Angry Men: I'm generally not a huge fan of legal dramas (Anatomy of a Murder and Witness for the Prosecution are much lower on my list than overall, although I thought they were fine and with solid performances). 12 Angry Men shouldn't be good. There's a bunch of actors who barely did anything else, the cinematography is nothing special, all but 2 minutes of the film take place entirely within one room. But there's no other legal drama like this. Most of them focus on the courtroom, the lawyers and judge(s), the people on trial and the witnesses. I don't think I've seen another film that focuses on the jury. And this is ENTIRELY the jury. You don't know anything about the young man being tried for murder other than what the jurors know. And you get to see 12 strangers argue over this young man's life. While I may not make the argument that it's an amazing piece of cinema, it's an amazing story, amazing acting performances, and based on an incredible play. It really shouldn't appeal to me, but every time I watch I'm completely captivated the whole time.
Anyway, every jury duty I've experienced isn't nearly as glamorous. There's always some ass who thinks they're being a hero like juror #8 when really they're just delaying the proceedings for no reason. And there's always lots more juror #7s who just want to get home as quickly as possible. _________________ 51 Washington, D.C. albums!
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Hayden
Location: Vietnam 
- #40
- Posted: 03/11/2025 01:17
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CA Dreamin wrote: | 1. We really didn't like Jacques Tati much this time around. One of his films dropped 56 places. And the other dropped at least 60 (we don't know how many for sure cause it missed the list entirely, the highest-ranked film on the old list that didn't return).
2. Billy Wilder lost Sabrina and The Seven Year Itch from the old list...and still had 5 on the new one. He had 7 on the old list. Incredible. Out of his 5 on the new one, 4 are in the top 25.
3. Only Kurosawa and Hitchcock are in the same league imo. 3 films each in the Top 10. Wow. Yeah, Wilder, Hitchcock, and Kurosawa were the best of the 50s hands down.
4. Well, I'm a big fan of Otto Preminger, whom I'd like to say is among the decade's best. But I understand his films don't have as high a reputation, except Anatomy of a Murder. I put 6 of his movies on my personal list, and only one made the cut. I would have liked to see one or two more, but oh well.
5. We were talking about 50s Westerns. Personally I think the 50s was a great decade for the genre. Yet only 5 made the list. Even weirder is the fact that not a single one was directed by Anthony Mann (um, what?). At least High Noon got a high placement.
6. Great list! |
I also noticed a slight decline for Tati — by all means, perhaps I'm also to blame for that... he didn't land particularly high on my submission— but was still hoping he'd appear a little more. I don't have any problem revealing that Monsieur Hulot's Holiday ended up at #149. It was quite the drop.
Sabrina was regularly floating around the 90-110 mark, but didn't get a lot of love near the end. Just slipped in the last week or so really. The Seven Year Itch appeared on some lists, but really never gained traction. Wasn't even in the top 250 believe it or not.
And man... Wilder vs Hitchcock vs Kurosawa is tight. That'd be a fight. I'm not even sure who I'd pick. (Total oeuvre, not just 50s, etc).
Otto Preminger only has one film on the board, but he was in a second! (He acts in Stalag 17).
Glad you like the list though CA, so do I. I think we whipped up a decent set here. I think your comments on Ozu might (unfortunately) be true... his films can get slightly jumbled. Might have something to do with it. Still, masterful. Love his style. Wish someone else would give it a shot honestly. A modern take on Ozu could be a real treat.
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