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[quote="andy_hunter"]The first name that came to mind was Morrissey and then the Gallagher brothers after that. But no, after each pompous, self-absorbed comment Morrissey makes or every crude, idiotic thing Liam says I still love The Smiths and Oasis just as much.

However, that said, some of the things John Lennon said and did have really put me off him. His solo stuff is the most sanctimonious, pretentious crap I've ever heard. Not to mention his hypocrisy - he's singing about love and peace when he used to beat his wife and left her with a kid he barely saw while he ran off with Yoko. He was such a twat and what makes it worse is no one mentions it. We all know Morrissey and Liam Gallagher are wankers but Lennon gets away scot free.[/quote]

Maybe because there's very little fact in an ocean of rumors. Wife-beating? Find me the evidence. Now abuse, that's different. And he certainly verbally abused a lot of people. But he could also be very, very sweet, as evidenced by letters, postcards, testimonials of those who actually met him,...
And, you know, singing about love and peace doesn't exclude misbehaving at times. We're all human.
To quote the man: "you want to save humanity but it's people that you just can't stand". He was aware of his contradictions. Honesty: that's the key-word with John Lennon.
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Now Ted Nugent... that's an altogether different kettle of fish. A moronic non-genius. He could shoot me for writing this. And he. is. alive... Brrr.
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andy_hunter wrote:
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However, that said, some of the things John Lennon said and did have really put me off him. His solo stuff is the most sanctimonious, pretentious crap I've ever heard. Not to mention his hypocrisy - he's singing about love and peace when he used to beat his wife and left her with a kid he barely saw while he ran off with Yoko. He was such a twat and what makes it worse is no one mentions it. We all know Morrissey and Liam Gallagher are wankers but Lennon gets away scot free.


I read Cynthia Lennon's book and the part 1968-1970 made me really sad: between this period Lennon didn't want to see Julian at all, and how he and Yoko treated his first wife before and after the divorce, that was just disgusting. While in the same time, he sang about 'Imagine all the people living life in peace'...
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Not at the same time as he sang "Imagine", no. That came a bit later, after he had kicked his heroin addiction. He did sing "Give peace a chance " in 1969; though I fail to see the contradiction with the pain most divorces entail. Cynthia was understandably very sad and disappointed at the time. Nobody's business anyway.
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itsit wrote:
Depends how awful the thign they did is.

This is pretty much how I feel too.

God bless you always!!! Smile Smile Smile

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Jasonconfused wrote:
How has Ted Nugent not been mentioned? Great guitar player but his statements are absurd. I'm not saying I hate him... but I want to take him and put him in a concentration camp..


Nugent barely registers on my artistic radar. That said, his political views are wacko. I'd be disgusted, but that would mean taking him seriously.
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junodog4 wrote:
Nugent barely registers on my artistic radar. That said, his political views are wacko. I'd be disgusted, but that would mean taking him seriously.


Listen to this and tell me he's not registering on your radar


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junodog4 wrote:
Nugent barely registers on my artistic radar. That said, his political views are wacko. I'd be disgusted, but that would mean taking him seriously.


This.
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sheep21 wrote:
Listen to this and tell me he's not registering on your radar


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Thanks, now I know not to take him seriously either.
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When a guy like Gary Glitter ends up in jail for pedophilia, afterwards it is impossible for me to listen to the song "Do You Want to Touch Me" unaffected. Thankfully Gary Glitter's music is not that crucial to my listening habits.

Same thing with Woody Allen and his movie "Whatever Works". I would like to watch it without making reference to what the man did in his life but it just does not work. Art -at least when it uses words- is not THAT disjointed from the artist.
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