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Applerill

Autistic Princess <3

Gender: Female

Age: 31

Location: Chicago

Guys, this isn't an explicit comparison or "vs." thread between the two genres. I just wanted to talk about something I realized.

So, now I know that most music critics hate prog, and think that the Ramones, AC/DC and the Sex Pistols saved anything. But when I was a kid, that couldn't be farther from the truth. When I was in sixth grade, I liked stuff like Styx and Pink Floyd from the early seventies, but I thought that AC/DC and the Sex Pistols were "retarded shock-rock" that ruined the eighties.

In fact, to this day, I still more or less hold that same belief. Most of the eighties albums I love (Master of Puppets, Number of the Beast, etc.) really had a seventies-style composition. And most of the nineties stuff that I love so much, such as Tori Amos and NIN, borrows from that as well.

So, what do you guys prefer? Do you like the eighties-style "punk fun" music that apparently "saved" music, or do you like the seventies stuff that's actually good?

The Mubla

Age: 37

Location: newbury

I'm not having a go but I just can't make sense out of your post. I dont understand how AC/DC could be labeled shock rock and how sex pistols ruined the '80s'??

80s style punk fun? eh? seventies stuff thats actually good? well that would be punk for me. Just like my videogames i like songs short and sweet not RPGs that drag on and on coz thats how I feel about prog.
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cartoken

The Seer

Gender: Male

Age: 40

Location: Paris

I'm a big Punk fan, and i think that Punk music was a critical turning point in music (thanks to the Ramones !). it was as much important as the pop touch of the Beatles in the 60s or the alternative/indie touch of the Velvet Underground. you cant' listen to Marquee Moon and still compose music in the same way.

btw Applerill, the Sex Pistols was a 70s band.

Applerill

Autistic Princess <3

Gender: Female

Age: 31

Location: Chicago

cartoken wrote:

btw Applerill, the Sex Pistols was a 70s band.

Yes, I know, but they opened the way for a lot of annoying eighties stuff.

Of course, I don't believe this 100% anymore. I still prefer a lean album over an overblown one. But I still don't understand why people like the second half of the seventies so much better than the first.

mooseboy101

Gender: Male

Location: Geneva

I'd guess I'll go with punk, don't get me wrong, I love prog rock (pink floyd is my favorite band of all time, styx are ok i guess) but punk just seems to be more....fun. Most prog music i listen to get's really boring after a little bit. Punk is always jump around crazy fun stuff. Plus there are a lot of local punk bands so maybe that adds to a little bit of my love for punk.
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40footwolf

Gender: Male

Age: 34

I've gotta go with prog. The escapism of that genre has helped me through some tough times.
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purple

punk by far: Wire, Gang of Four, Public Image Ltd., Joy Division (post-punk acts), the Clash, the Sex Pistols (at least for their aesthetic, if not their music), Iggy and the Stooges, Nirvana, Television, Blondie, Ramones... these are the big names that are either punk or heavily punk-influenced, and there's at least a few in there that nobody can deny their awesomeness. And there's a punk tinge in quite a few songs from very non-punk bands, like LCD Soundsystem, Arcade Fire, PJ Harvey, David Bowie, and the list goes on to include most modern music

cartoken

The Seer

Gender: Male

Age: 40

Location: Paris

purple wrote:

punk by far: Wire, Gang of Four, Public Image Ltd., Joy Division (post-punk acts), the Clash, the Sex Pistols (at least for their aesthetic, if not their music), Iggy and the Stooges, Nirvana, Television, Blondie, Ramones... these are the big names that are either punk or heavily punk-influenced, and there's at least a few in there that nobody can deny their awesomeness. And there's a punk tinge in quite a few songs from very non-punk bands, like LCD Soundsystem, Arcade Fire, PJ Harvey, David Bowie, and the list goes on to include most modern music

+ all the awesome post punk revival bands: the strokes, interpol, yeah yeah yeah, arctic monkeys...

Elston

Prog man myself. I guess the argument could be summed up in Style vs. Substance, or Form vs. Content. Always been more interested in content, being a bit of a stuffy shirt faggot. I don't like to dance and I don't like to get crunked or anything like that. Give me an interesting composition any day over some drunken lout screaming his balls off. Though ideally you combine the two. You need balance obviously. The Sex Pistols are maybe a little too dumb, while King Crimson is perhaps a little too faggy.

Mr. Shankly

Gender: Male

Age: 53

Location: Auburn, Washington

This match up makes a lot of sense as punk is the exact opposite of prog.

Frankly, I really don't like prog. To me it's self-indulgent, overly intellectual, and the very definition of pretentious. I'm a "Don't bore us, get to the chorus" kind of person at least when it comes to rock and pop, so punk, of course.

On a side note, Mooseboy referred to Pink Floyd as prog rock. I disagree. I wouldn't call Pink Floyd a prog rock band, more like art rock. I can listen to a lot of Floyd's music and not be annoyed. Yes or Emerson, Lake and Palmer on the other hand, not so much.